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Sedo Sells Tell.com for $400,000

Domain name aftermarket has big week including two six figure domain sales.

Domain name aftermarket Sedo is reporting the sale of Tell.com for $400,000 as part of a big week of domain sales. The company rang up 110,000 EUR for Auto.es as well.

Tell.com currently does not resolve.

Sedo also sold a handful of three character domain name sales including qli.com for $10,600, lhg.com for 10,000 EUR, and snq.com for $9,900.

Here are some other sales of note:

bordel.com 33,000 EUR
aquapark.com 6,500 USD
livewtv.com 6,300 EUR
webgreetings.com 6,100 EUR
ecologique.com 6,100 EUR (Ecological in French)
canadalist.com 5,000 USD
beijing.de website 35,000 EUR
deser.pl 22,000 EUR
fotograf.de 10,100 EUR (Photographer in German)
flugmarkt.de 10,000 EUR (Flight market in German)
topmodels.de 8,300 EUR
geld.eu 5,500 EUR
vakantielanden.nl 5,000 EUR
antalya.org 16,000 USD
immobilienmakler.biz 8,330 EUR
sinusite.net 5,750 EUR
artemis.net 5,700 USD
weine.org 5,500 EUR



GoDaddy Bans Employees from Bidding on TDNAM

Domain registrar changes policy on employee bidding.

GoDaddy has changed its policy on employees bidding in TDNAM domain name auctions after a firestorm erupted last week (and over the weekend).

Domain Name Wire’s original story, which was based on a thread from NamePros and additional information from a reader, put a hot topic in the limelight. At first it was confined to the domain name industry, but over the weekend the story appeared on Slashdot, Ycombinator, and Reddit. It hit the top spot on Fark’s business page today.

GoDaddy General Counsel Christine Jones released a statement today announcing the company’s change in policy:

Go Daddy has reviewed the auction and found nothing improper.

Adam Dicker’s knowledge on the auction was no different from what any customer coming to our TDNAM site would have had.

To ensure customer confidence and to avoid any possible future questions of impropriety all GD employees are now and in the future prohibited from participating in TDNAM auctions, purchasing, sales & back orders.

For more on this story and other companies’ policies on employee bidding, see:

Expired Domain Services Let Employees Bid Against Customers

Sedo and Pool Explain Employee Policies for Bidding

For another controversy regarding expired domains, see this article at The Domains.



ICANN Fee Rule Change Won’t End Domain Tasting, Frontrunning

ICANN’s recent rule change will have mixed results.

ICANN recently moved a step further to changing how it handles refunds for domain names in conjunction with the registry. Currently, ICANN charges a 20 cent fee per domain name registered. However, this fee is refundable along with the entire price of the domain registration if the domain is “returned” to the registry within 5 days. With the new rules, the 20 cent fee won’t be refundable after a registrar returns more than 10% of its domains in a month.

The idea is that domain tasters will be stuck with the fee and tasting won’t be profitable anymore. Not so fast. Someone didn’t do the math on that. Here’s a look at what will and will not happen as a result of this change.

Domain Tasting. ICANN’s change will stem but not eliminate domain tasting. Even with the 20 cent fee it can still be profitable. CADNA ran some (errant) numbers that sort of prove the point:

According to the results of the CADNA study, a registrant that registers 100,000 domain names would keep 6,600 of them on average. At $6.20 each, the cost of these domain names would be $40,920. Paired with the 20-cent ICANN fee for each of the 93,400 domains that were not kept, the total cost of the domains would be $59,600. In other words, the taster would have spent $9 per profitable domain name that was identified via tasting and kept beyond the Add Grace Period (AGP).

I’m not sure if the guys at CADNA have kept up with the domain industry lately, but you can’t get domain names for $6.20 anymore. The wholesale price of a .com is $6.42 plus the $.20 fee, making it $6.62. (That price increases again later this year.) So that makes it $6.62 times 6,600 or $43,692. Also, the 20 cent fee will only apply to domains above the 10% threshold.

But CADNA’s point, that tasting will be more expensive but still profitable if done smartly, is correct. A bigger detriment to mass domain name tasters is the falling value of parked domain names and trademark lawsuits.

Poor Man’s Tasting. So-called “Poor Man’s Tasting” is a deal set up by registrars to let their customers taste domain names on a one-off basis. Registrars usually charge a fee of 25 cents or so for this privilege. Given that there’s already a cost to this, I don’t see there being an effect on this type of low-scale tasting.

Domain Kiting. ICANN’s move will eliminate “domain kiting”, which refers to companies that register a domain and serially drop it and re-register it within the 5 day grace period to avoid the annual registration fee. Now they’ll have to pay 20 cents per 5 days (over the threshold), which costs more than an annual registration. If companies still kite domains, they’ll go ahead and register them once they know the domain gets enough traffic.

Frontrunning. A number of people and companies have suggested that ICANN’s rule change will eliminate frontrunning. Frontrunning is when someone gets a hold of queries people make for new domain registrations and registers the domains. The person who wanted the domain comes back to register it later, only to find it has been snapped up. (For the record, an ICANN committee said no one has provided it with good evidence that this happens at the registrar or registry level.) I doubt a 20 cent fee will stop this. The potential to sell the domain to the interested party, or the assumption that the term will become popular, makes frontrunning a profitable game.

Network Solutions’ “Customer Protection Measure”. Network Solutions “protects” its customers from frontrunning by preemptively registering any domain searched for on its web site. Because NetSol takes advantage of the add grace period for this “service”, it will end this practice with the rule change.

Recently NetSol tried to play good guy by saying that it would stop reserving domain names if ICANN made its rule change, since that would end frontrunning. I guess they thought we’d forget that they said they couldn’t afford to continue the practice if they were charged 20 cents for each domain name reserved.



.UK Registry Nominet Gets Nominet.com

Registry for United Kingdom domain names gets .com version of its name through UDRP.

Nominet, the registry responsible for managing the .uk country code domain name, has won the domain name Nominet.com through arbitration at World Intellectual Property Organization. The company’s official web site is Nominet.org.uk, but it also owns Nominet.co.uk.

The respondent in the case was Hansoo Bae of South Korea. The panel’s decision was rendered in Korean. Bae had parked the domain name with TrafficZ. The site currently displays links to “domain registration” and “buy domain”, among others.

.uk domain names have increased in popularity in recent years. A travel company made headlines after buying Cruise.co.uk for over $1,000,000. Other six figure sales include Recycle.co.uk, Mobile.co.uk, and Fly.co.uk, according to NameBio.

In doing research for this article, I came across another surprising find: WIPO doesn’t own WIPO.com. Its official site is wipo.int, but a visit to wipo.com yields a parked page featuring keywords such as “intellectual property” and “patents”. The domain is parked at ParkingSpa. You would think that the World Intellectual Property Organization would be on top of this. But it begs the question, would it file a UDRP through its rival National Arbitration Forum?



Don’t Panic. Now is the Time to Invest.

Much like in the stock market, the time to buy in the domain market is when domains are “on sale.”

Fear. Worry. Panic.

Those are common words to describe the U.S. stock market these days. And it’s becoming the word of the day in the domain name market.

Over the past few weeks I’ve shifted much of my cash into the stock market, even as my current stock holdings have had massive losses. After all, why would I buy into the Dow at 14,000 if I wouldn’t at 11,500? I like to buy things when they’re “on sale”.

To be sure, the stock market may continue to go down. This may not (and probably isn’t) the bottom. The U.S. is going to experience quite a hangover from excess credit and government debt. Oh yeah, and that little “oil” and “inflation” thing (very much related). But I think it will eventually turn around. Right now you have a lot of people who are tired of seeing their stocks drop, so they’re selling at the bottom. That’s not exactly “buy low, sell high”.

You’ll see the same thing in the domain name market. Many of the people that got rich in the domain business (e.g. Frank Schilling) did it when other people were getting out. As others panic, it’s your chance to get domain names cheap.

Just this week I received a call from someone whom I tried to buy a domain from in the past. He wouldn’t sell. Now he’s trying to cover some bad bets he made and needs cash. You’re going to see a lot of people in this same situation. They need cash and they’re holding relatively illiquid assets. That means you can get them cheap, they can sell them, and both people are happy.

If you have the stomach for it, now is the time to invest.


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