8ch.net moves to Epik. Here’s Rob Monster’s response.
Epik has accepted domains that other registrars have kicked out, including Gab.com.
The registrar’s CEO Rob Monster said that it did not solicit 8chan’s business and is evaluating whether to offer it DDoS mitigation. Here’s Monster’s full statement about 8ch.net moving to the registrar.
Freedom of speech and expression are fundamental rights in a free society. We enter into a slippery slope when we start to limit speech that makes us uncomfortable. The censorship we’ve seen across major social media platforms as of late has created a vacuum. Our services fill the ever growing need for a neutral service provider that will not terminate accounts based on arbitrary reasoning or political pressure. Our philosophy is, if the customer is not breaking the law, they are protected under our umbrella of services.
Specific to any of the “Chan” sites, Epik did not solicit this business. We have not made a definitive decision about whether to provide DDoS mitigation or Content Delivery services for them. We will evaluate this in the coming days. From what little we know so far, the Chans are not lawless and do have moderation, especially in regards to DMCA and content which is illegal in the United States. Ultimately, we believe that the best disinfectant for darkness however this must absolutely occur within the bounds of the law.
In other words – we are not sure if the company Voxility whose service we whitelabel as our Bitmitigate CDN /DDOS service will allow us to offer services to 8chan
To clarify here, Epik’s BitMitigate service contracts with many upstream providers. We did have contracts with 2 upstream providers — Voxility and Vultr but this was just for our Content Delivery Network, not for DDoS Mitigation.
The chronology is that on Monday, both providers breached contracts with BitMitigate, the first one at 8:42 am PT and the second one at 1:53 pm PT. Mind you that 8Chan had just showed up unsolicited as a client of BitMitigate.
Epik customers were not impacted by the Voxility/Vultr transition. By Tuesday morning, BitMitigate engineers had brought a planned proprietary CDN online, and this time on our Autonomous System (AS), and on our own /22 IPv4 running our own BGP.
The reason this is worth explaining is to clarify that the technology performed flawlessly. It has contended with DDoS attacks involving 1 million IPs at a time, and Layer 7 attacks. Even CloudFlare chokes on such attacks. This tech is effective.
So, if the Internet has been weaponized as appears to be the case, BitMitigate is a potent countermeasure against takedowns. As the supply chain is further solidified it will outperform CloudFlare, and I believe they fully know it too which is why they need to IPO asap.
For the record, Epik did not acquire BitMitigate to protect lawless thugs. We did however assemble some impressive technologies on the way to creating what I believe will be Epik’s flagship product and that is what we refer to as Resilient Domains:
https://www.epik.com/resilient/
The other recent acquisition was Sibyl Systems Ltd which specializes in high availability hosting out of bunker data centers in neutral jurisdictions like Norway and Switzerland.
As for the leap of judgement that some are making in this thread, it is obviously disappointing. Keep in mind that the primary use case for this technology is to be a force for good. We are partnering with national Ministries of IT to give them a tech bundle that gives them:
– Digital Empowerment
– Economic Development
– National Security
Imagine if anyone that buys a .NG domain in Nigeria or .PH in Philippines, now also gets a Resilient Domain that loads fast anywhere in the world. Perhaps we can empower these nations to succeed in the Digital Age. That is my personal focus.
So, yes, it works. And, no, not everyone gets to use it.
Another reason to never do business with Rob Monster even if he’s only doing this for attention.
I agree. I don’t understand how or how some supposedly educated folks out there seem to not understand what the legal spirit for freedom of speech is. I once clicked on link from a discussion that lead me to 8chan and I am telling you, the folks out there are out of this world. The bigotry and hatred they spew is sure intended not for freedom of speech but to deprive other of the right to liberty, life and happiness. If Rob Monster does not see the monster in 8chan, I for one will immediately remove my from Epik. I personally refuse to keep company with people who sympathize with a group advocating that I go to a gas chamber. I refuse to accept that advocating and acting to murder a bunch of innocent people; in the name of freedom of speech is normal.
Dilate
@Perfectname.com.
Duly noted, and that’s all fine. However, before pontificating, at least get yourself a working SSL certificate:
http://www.sslchecker.com/sslchecker?su=9107a7e76724aeeca35d27eb56e0be5d
If you like, you can get one for free at BitMitigate.com with 4096-bit SSL and it will actually work and make your site load fast. See here:
https://bitmitigate.com/website-suite.html
And since it is free, you would not be doing “business” with us but you would probably make more sales!
Hate Speech is protected speech under the U.S. Constitution. Some of you need to really read up on the history of free speech in America. If you don’t like free speech move to the UK or a communist country.
Many of you are communists at heart. The social response to bigotry is the promotion of justice and greater free speech. Why would you want ignorant views to go into the shadows rather than be exposed to public discourse?
I suspect many people want to quell the sort of bogted and racist views they secretly hold, to virtue signal. You destroy racism by living in a spirit of truth and justice not censorship. Censorship doesn’t work, but expanded knowledge does.
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” ― George Orwell
The new line of defence is “If you don’t like it, leave America” or “You’re a socialist”! And our answer is; “We are not going anywhere and certainly not leaving the country to you people”.
‘I suspect many people want to quell the sort of bogted and racist views they secretly hold, to virtue signal. ‘
Well, ‘people publicly call on people to not accept money from neo-nazis because there are, themselves, secretly neo-nazis’ is a new one. Censorship is done by governments. private enterprises not providing paid services to terrible people is just good sense.
Of course free speech is protected. That means that the government must be especially judicious in not regulating what people can or cannot say. That does not mean that anyone is obligated to provide a platform for, amplify, or listen to that speech. Any company that chooses to enable an unregulated hate forum is complicit in the speech taking place there. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, and everything to do with enabling hate. If you choose to do so, you are inherently un-American, and *you* are welcome to leave.
The two comments that go hand in hand when someone claims they are all for free speech…
“Free speech must be protected”
“If you disagree with me you should shut up”
…points out that “free speech” is the last thing you actually want.
Hate speech may be protected, but not ALL inciteful speech is protected by the First Amendment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaplinsky_v._New_Hampshire
Quote: “It held that “insulting or ‘fighting words’, those that by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace” are among the “well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech the prevention and punishment of [which] … have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem.””
King Sigman I doubt your community college food service certificate program delved into Marxism or the U.S. Constitution.
Unless your head was up your rear-end 8chan didn’t just bring racism and white supremacy to light it acted as a meeting place and allowed others to instigate violent acts.
You are allowed free speech but you aren’t allowed to yell “fire” in a theater. Since the constitution deals only with limitations on government power it isn’t applicable anyway. This are private companies responding to public pressure. Too bad for you. Tell us again about ‘communism’.
Lol, I knew it would end up at Epik soon as I heard cloudflare dropped them.
I support Rob. He is a libertarian like myself. God bless you Rob.
PS – End the Fed. That is all.
Two thumbs up
Neo-Nazi white nationalism, anti-Semitism and facilitating acts of domestic terror are not Libertarian positions, Kyle. Nor God’s.
They are the violent jackboot extremes of fascism, anarchy and the Fourth Reich.
But thanks for clarifying who you are.
I am looking forward to the site coming back on line so I can take a look at it.
Back when GAB.COM got shut down I had never heard of them either. When I finally did look at the site I found it to be nothing like what many claimed …. And wondered if those claims had come from people that had even visited the site.
When I get the chance the look at 8Chan, I wonder if what I find will reconcile with these claims.
If a site is not breaking a law, why is it the site gets attacked versus law makers being “attacked” for writing appropriate laws to protect people? …. Because people don’t fact check the CLAIMS of others, and so its easier to deceive en mass as to what a site is about, thus pressuring private corporations, versus writing laws the are recognized as being oppressive.
By the way, the libertarian founders of this country without question would today be considered racists and terrorists, and the word “democracy” does not appear in the pledge of allegiance ….
Do you have belief, or do you have truth?
There are hundreds or thousands of boards (not sure how many). One is obnoxious (/pol) where you see bigots and where these loons have posted manifestos.
But the REAL reason 8chan was destroyed was because of the qresearch board. Thousands of people scouring news, legal docs, etc., to share news that the mainstream media suppresses.
They’ve been attacking 8chan for months and lying about what the Qanon board was about. It was about researching people and making connections. THAT is what the Washington elite and their media had to destroy.
Absolutely. So many people responding to something they have ZERO knowledge of, as well as pontificating what we should consider is ‘free’ speech. Most of the ‘hate’ they are referring to, if they have ANY REAL knowledge at all, are the same funny political cartoons we see in emails everyday. This is truly despicable – Fakebook/Instascam have had ZERO scrutiny and the Dayton shooter posted plenty THERE? Two levels of justice in PonziUSAInc.
How do you even comment on something you don’t know about? You think your opinion matters more than the rest of everybody else?
>How do you even comment on
>something you don’t know about?
My comments have been about censorship and the critical role free speech plays in society.
In this post I presented the quotes from history:
https://domainnamewire.com/2019/08/05/epik-ceo-rob-monster-statement-on-8chan/#comment-2256068
“Nothing new, under the sun”
So my response to you is, what make you think the issue of 8 Chan is any different than any other time this issue has come up during the entirety of human existence on this planet? Say, the past 200,000 YEARS? Just because the problem manifests on this thing called “the internet” does not make it any different than say the burning of the Library of Alexandria. Or the conquests “Grok” scribbled on the cave that others objected to …. Same censorship, different millennia, and different media.
This is about people.
The media may change, and the faces of the tyrants may change, but the important dynamics never do.
And never will.
As to my not having read 8 Chan, that was:
1) My admitting humility
2) My suggesting that I am likely to find 8 Chan being similar to GAB.COM
The FACT is, neither site has been pursued BY THE GOVERNMENT, which is called “a clue” that people are not commenting about facts. They are commenting about EMOTIONS.
Given Andrew’s useful information about the Archive.org snapshots, I have now gone through some of its content. I found some good respectable content there, and a lot of potty mouth content. There were places I avoided as it was clear it would be objectionable to me, that is called application of free will. Frankly, I grew up in New York, potty mouth was the norm and the 8 Chan posts made me feel like the hands of time had been turned back 30 years and I was back in New York.
New York survived, so did I …..
With that in mind, I find kids of todays having that same potty mouth even out here in Utah. It seems to have become the norm again. Very sad. I don’t think dezoning 8 Chan is going to change that.
My opinion is no better than others.
But I’ve also been in this industry for 20 years, I have seen a lot during that time and will continue to comment. If you don’t like my comments you are free not to read them. They are easy to identify, just look at the first sentence in the box, it show my REAL NAME which is Charles Christopher. If my placing a custom logo will make it easier to avoid my posts just let me know and I’ll use them in the future.
“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.”
– George Orwell
The problem with these sites is that idiots are easily manipulated by Russian trolls. Putin loves how easy it is to destroy this country through idiots.
Hey now!
Excellent observation.
Freedom of speech means the government cant tell you what you can and cannot say, it does not mean a private company cant limit what you can say using their platform or in their place of business. There has always been censorship of offensive speech in this country. Newspapers, radio and TV have always restricted foul or hateful speech. The people of 8chan have the legal right to say what they want but Voxility also has the right to say they cant use their servers to say it. If these future mass murderers want to spew their hate then why dont they do it in person rather than hiding behind their computers while planning the murder of innocent people?
> it does not mean a private company cant
>limit what you can say using their platform
That makes sense, until those same “private” companies receive BILLIONS of dollars in tax incentives. In my view that may no longer hide behind the label “Private”, they are not public private partnerships.
For example, Face book recently received $150 million in tax incentives, for a $100 million facility there are building locally. Sorry, but they have no right to say what the taxpayers they are taking money from can and can’t say on “their” platform …. Because it is not “their” platform.
If they want to pay their own bills without taxpayer help, then b and only then do they have to right to say it is “their” platform.
Accepting them, even as a domain registrar would automatically violate their TOS, so I guess that means nothing. As far as free speech, it’s not something Rob cared about until Gab, look at his Twitter, first time he mentions this. So this is just business.
► Rob Monster has already shown, then told us who he is. He is a savvy, cultured and capable sponsor and facilitator of violent white supremacist and neo-Nazi ideology, wrapped in Brooks Brothers respectability, Christian seemliness and crumbled constitutional parchment.
He has openly given bandwidth, inspiration and support to violent social miscreants of like mind, in the aftermath of the slaughter of innocents at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh. He has demonized Jews and posted forebodingly, “God will deal with them and in His time and His way.” He celebrated the massacre of 51 Muslim worshipers in Christchurch, New Zealand, and posted the gruesome shooting rampage video in homage to the avowed white supremacist mass murderer.
Whether or not Monster will now lend his hateful bandwidth to 8chan.com and double-down on his complicity in the deadly white supremacist terror movement is fundamentally unimportant. He will calculate, chose, then calmly pontificate his rationale in constitutional and Old Testament Sharia.
► WHAT IS IMPORTANT is that domain professionals who know this Monster, as I do, use our social media platforms to: 1) denounce his personal and corporate complicity in acts of deadly domestic terrorism; and 2) publicly sever all business/affiliate relationships with Epik and other Monster companies. If doing so makes you uneasy, then at least demonstrate your contempt and self-respect by unfriending and unfollowing Monster on Facebook and Twitter, as I intend to do a day or two after I tag him in my parting public ‘fuck you’ post.
Make this Frankenstein a pariah.
If, perhaps, you support Monster’s hateful ideology and growing stake in domestic terrorism, and are one of the 268 Mutual Friends I share with Monster on Facebook, PLEASE UNFRIEND ME — discreetly, if you like; or with the kind of raging flourish becoming a loyal neo-Nazi empathizer.
Either way, I will thank you for helping me take out the trash.
Leftists commit far more violent crimes than do any other sub-section of people in America, while they simultaneously work to dismantle our free-market system (a system that gives all American citizens the opportunity to pull themselves forward economically).
If World History teaches us anything, it is that there is nothing more violent, twisted, destabilizing, and dangerous than the leftist-mindset.
Shmuck, I’m a recovering former Republican. And you’re no “Educator.”
I have never been a “Republican”; and you are incorrect — I’ve served as an “Educator” for over 25 years. I work to counter the leftist-message/sewage that is promoted by my peers and the media. I have been more than effective in this regard;-)
“Internet hate forum 8chan has gone dark after web services company Voxility banned the site — and also banned 8chan’s new host Epik, which had been leasing web space from it…….
As soon as we were notified of the content that Epik was hosting, we made the decision to totally ban them,” Voxility business development VP Maria Sirbu told The Verge. Sirbu said it was unlikely that Voxility would work with Epik again. “This is the second situation we’ve had with the reseller and this is not tolerable,” she said.”
Article from TheVerge
Gab.com and Epik.com are both still resolving.
“Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.”
― Benjamin Franklin
This country was founded on protecting the MINORITY from the MAJORITY, about the very idea of it being wrong to deny others different views espicially ones we do not want to hear.
Don’t like someones website? Stop going there then.
“If all printers were determined not to print anything till they were sure it would offend nobody, there would be very little printed.”
Benjamin Franklin
“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.”
George Orwell
“Tolerance implies a gratuitous assumption of the inferiority of others faith to one’s own”
Gandhi (Yes ….. Really …. GANDHI)
“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”
Voltaire
Ignoring hatred doesn’t stop hatred.
Telling people to shut up runs contrary to any claim that “free speech is important, even if you disagree with it”
>Ignoring hatred doesn’t stop hatred.
Which suggests hatred can be stopped, it can’t. Hate is care, but with proactive rejection of the person (disrespect). The illusion that hatred can be eliminated is very dangerous.
Love is care, and acceptance of the person (respect), but with no need to agree. The need to agree is another twisting of truth, there is never a need to agree. Its the issue of agreement that gets twisted in these discussions. Love brings with it no need to agree, only that disagreement must be respectful and caring NOT egotistical and self serving.
Apathy is actually the most dangerous state of mind …
“So, because you are lukewarm–neither hot nor cold–I am about to spit you out of my mouth.”
The irony is, if someone hates me, I know there is care that I can work with. If someone feels apathy towards me, I have nothing to work with ….
>Telling people to shut up runs contrary to
>any claim that “free speech is important,
>even if you disagree with it”
Are you suggestion that I have told anybody to shut up?
Or are you suggesting people can’t disagree?
I need to add to this post before I get misquoted.
No where am I saying hate is good.
However I am saying hatred has the interesting result of creating opportunity (versus apathy) to identify “low hanging fruit”, and potentially change a persons direction by using the care they are expressing.
Apathetic people are NOT posting to this thread …..
Giving an educational presentation of TRUTH to a room full of “haters” will very likely change the heart of some of them …. No so with apathy, as nobody will even show up.
So LOVE the haters, as ironic as that sounds, and be most worried about those with apathy …
Monster is a monster garbage destroy
Monster has freedom to have heart attack
How is this dude still in business… ICANN should take away Epik’s accreditation. Draw a line right here and now.
Rob Monster is a Flat Earther. That is all you need to know. He should crawl back into his little corner of epik madness, and stay there. Domainers should not give him a mouthpiece. He is wasting oxygen.
Ah I see, the old Freedom of Speech argument instead of doing the right thing. How predictable …..
>doing the right thing
And that is the issue is’nt it?
From what objective reference frame do we define “right thing”?
Do YOU define it for the rest of us?
The founders were very clear, no man is the definer. It is when man defines right and wrong, that those definitions then are changed over time to suit those in power. If ones definition of “right” is not static in time, then it can’t reflect TRUTH as truth is static over time.
Objective truth PROTECTS US from tyrants.
If truth is not the basis of right and wrong, then you are correct, free speech is rendered useless and so there is no point in protecting it ….
“We have no government armed in power capable of contending in human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. IT IS WHOLLY INADEQUATE FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF ANY OTHER.”
John Adams, 1798
Note well, John Adams REJECTED RELIGION ….
From Noah Websters 1828 Dictionary:
Religion – “the obligation of such an oath or vow, which was held very sacred by [X].
And today’s dictionary:
Religion – “a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.”
Notice objective truth (God) is removed in both definitions.
Reread all posts in this thread applying those definitions of “religion” do you now see a lot of “religion” in those posts? Just what John Adams warned of …
It is the continuous of pursuit of truth, and it’s acceptance (Plato’s Cave / Luke 5:36-39) that is the key difference. If truth is not an individuals objective (and thus society’s), then everything else crumbles. And that is why Free Speech is so important, but requires people to be seeking objective truth, not egoic belief …..
What’s next …….a free gun with every new .info registered??
Sign me up!
But I doubt it will be a G17 …
At $10 it’ll just be a single shot nerf and that’s hardly even fun in a Nerf war 🙁
And that my friends is the problem
And yet I have trained 100’s of people, all of who have thanked me for the free training they received.
After the Pulse shooting, our group reached out to the local LGBT community and offered free training. They brought a reporter from Reuters, who after an hour or so commented that we we not what he thought we would be. For some reason they thought a bunch of straight conservative gun lovers just wanted to cause them more problems … We all had a lot of fun together! We then received world coverage for the event:
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/pink-pistols-thousands-join-lgbt-gun-club-after-orlando-shootings-1570587
https://www.reuters.com/news/picture/the-pink-pistols-lgbt-gun-club-idJPRTSHLO6
And yes, than is my loaner Glock with the Charles label on it. We all have Glocks we loan, I just make it easier to get mine back after classes.
So yes, I do reach out to people being unfairly treated and teach them how to fight back! I offer FREE training to anybody who asks.
And that is a problem, how?
From HuffPost
“He also shared his own opinions. “Are there a lot of ‘Jewish’ people who are in a position of power or influence and favor other ‘Jewish’ people, Ashkenazi, or otherwise? Sure. Do I think God is impressed by that? No, I do not,” Monster posted on Gab in November. Monster doesn’t wish Jewish people any harm, he said — “God will deal with them and in His time and His way regardless of hoaxes and conspiracies along the way.”
I for one would never side with the many authoritarians that have cropped up on this thread. Well done again Rob Monster. And I don’t even use 8chan by the way.
Authoritarian=Leftist/Democrat/Sociaist
In America, almost always.
In the UK and other European countries they can jail you for saying that Prophet Muhammad was a pedophile and a terrorist, but there are no problems if you are Muslim and call for the destruction of the Western world.
I am far from being a nazi but the common people not belonging tonthe elites need a free speech heaven due to the double free speech standards existing in the EU and Africa and Asia where any slight criticism of the evil ideology that is Islam, can see you jailed.
As it is now, in order to spill hatred without censorship, you need to belong to a specific religious group, otherwise they censor your free speech.
Mr. Monster is a fantastic guy. Whether or not he can do it for 8chan has nothing to do with it. He has tried to help, and he is correct they are not lawless places. The Chans are places that are feared because they are not lawless.
Free-Thinkers have always been feared by those parasites who profit from the labor of the governed.
Normal people in Germany be like, “What’s this, there’s a German guy in the US who wants to host all the nazi websites. His last name is what? Monster? Really?! FML.”
The guy is Dutch, not German. I know it’s tough for Americans to find other countries on a map and stuff.. but at least give it a try bro.
Yeah, it’s still funny either way. Rob’s using “free speech” in the same way that Alex Jones does. It’s just a way to make money. He’s deserving of ridicule. Everyone who knows, knows that this whole thing with him is a schtick. He set a precedent with Gab. If he doesn’t stick with this universal support for white nationalists, I mean FREE SPEECH, then it’s over. Then he can’t claim he’s all about free speech. He’s a lost soul who just whored out his humanity, for money.
The irony is that Rob’s moves with sites like Gab have destroyed the company’s value. No mainstream registrar will acquire Epik given the baggage it’s carrying. This limits the number of buyers.
Well once he let the genie with the little mustache out of the lamp… Seriously though, you think that anyone would have really cared that much to acquire Epik?
Andrew, can you think of any other domain registrars that have lots and lots of customers, but a large number of them are so toxic that it kind of makes the company untouchable?
This evening my attention was drawn to a page a training buddy just posted. Its a link to a year 2000 article by Dave Grossman and fits well into this discussion. One of Dave Grossman books is required reading at the FBI Academy and is on the United States Marine Corps’ recommended reading list. He is a leader in the field. Grossman is also involve with Sheepdog Seminars which we attended:
https://www.sheepdogsafetytraining.com
Part of the presentation related to sleep deprevation and how it tends to induce suicidal tendencies in people. Grossman gave many sad real wold examples of this. He literally pleaded with everyone in the room to take their children’s cell phones away at night to assure their children received a full 8 hour sleep cycle as children are especially prone to this phenomenon.
Time Index 00:27:28 to 00:32:30+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7F0uD_q7rc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj9AfVztJFs
No doubt the domain name of his site will “disturb” a few people here, especially the title of this article. We heard Grossman speak about 18 years after this was written and thus his presentation offered more details, and included actual examples of recent children shooter clearly having this “profile”.
Again, this is not me talking, this is one of the leaders of this field saying it like it is:
https://www.killology.com/teaching-kids-to-kill
And now from today’s Zerohedge post:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-06/heres-what-criminology-professor-learned-studying-every-mass-shooting-1966
“First, the vast majority of mass shooters in our study experienced early childhood trauma and exposure to violence at a young age. The nature of their exposure included parental suicide, physical or sexual abuse, neglect, domestic violence, and/or severe bullying. The trauma was often a precursor to mental health concerns, including depression, anxiety, thought disorders or suicidality.”
Maybe that was part of the reason Steve Jobs “took Dave Grossman’s advice” and limited his childrens access to his company’s products:
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/bill-gates-and-steve-jobs-raised-their-kids-techfree-and-it-shouldve-been-a-red-flag-a8017136.html
“Bill Gates and Steve Jobs raised their kids tech-free — and it should’ve been a red flag”
“Research has found that an eighth-grader’s risk for depression jumps 27% when he or she frequently uses social media. Kids who use their phones for at least three hours a day are much more likely to be suicidal. And recent research has found the teen suicide rate in the US now eclipses the homicide rate, with smartphones as the driving force.”
“Jobs, who was the CEO of Apple until his death in 2012, revealed in a 2011 New York Times interview that he prohibited his kids from using the newly-released iPad. “We limit how much technology our kids use at home,” Jobs told reporter Nick Bilton.”
Which in turn reminds me of one of my favorite videos on the subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6e1riShmak
“I can control my kids decisions, which is they’re not allowed to use this shit”
– Chamath Palihapitiya, Early senior executive at Facebook, about Facebook not 8 Chan
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(19)30186-5/fulltext
Published: August 13, 2019
“Roles of cyberbullying, sleep, and physical activity in mediating the effects of social media use on mental health and wellbeing among young people in England: a secondary analysis of longitudinal data”
“Background:
There is growing concern about the potential associations between social media use and mental health and wellbeing in young people. We explored associations between the frequency of social media use and later mental health and wellbeing in adolescents, and how these effects might be mediated.”
“Interpretation:
Mental health harms related to very frequent social media use in girls might be due to a combination of exposure to cyberbullying or displacement of sleep or physical activity, whereas other mechanisms appear to be operative in boys. Interventions to promote mental health should include efforts to prevent or increase resilience to cyberbullying and ensure adequate sleep and physical activity in young people.”
no (very sad):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS-kyS53iIo
yes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmLvW_okJMM
Busy thread here.
I never get alerts from this blog for some odd reason. I just happen to check it today and was surprised to see it had become so active.
If you missed it, I suggest review our statement on 8Chan:
https://epik.com/blog/epik-draws-line-on-acceptable-use.html
Some followup comments:
– We opted not to route 8Chan. They have 1 million daily users around the world and 3 volunteer moderators. That seems inadequate, at least at this time.
– I don’t use 8Chan, and never have. I don’t mind sifting through junk to find insight but from my one visit to the site, it was enough.
– The social pressure to dump free speech sites is tremendous. Some of the language is really heavy-handed, e.g. Scott Ross. My goodness.
– Epik operates within the law, and within the covenants of our accreditations. ICANN defers to registries and registrars on content matters as they should.
– In case you missed it, our tech is very good. BitMitigate will soon be better than Cloudflare. We promise resiliency, and are becoming more resilient, not less.
– Our business is strong. Revenue was up 71% in Q2 vs. Q1. We have many growth engines. We are investing heavily back into product and infrastructure.
Competing narratives will not go away. We can push them to the Dark web or we can expose them to sunlight. I prefer the latter but the former is happening.
The alternative is that we can change the law.