This guy got his name as a domain name, but he wasn’t happy about how it all went down.
Want to know how a person trying to get his hands on a domain name sees domain name investors?
Here’s a pretty good summary.
Brad Frost, a web developer (and speaker, writer, consultant, musician, and artist, according to his bio) recently went through the ordeal of acquiring BradFrost.com.
The domain was previously registered by another Brad Frost, and this Brad Frost waited a long time for the domain to expire so that he could pick it up.
Like many people in the same boat, he didn’t really understand the domain expiration process. I don’t blame him. It would have taken a lot of hours to figure it out.
The short of it: the domain was at enom, so he should have backordered with NameJet. Instead, he backordered it at GoDaddy. But no one backordered it at NameJet, and someone using Pheenix picked it up.
Frost then tried to acquire the domain name, which was parked at DomainNameSales. What follows is confusing. Frost suggests that he signed up with Escrow.com so he could make an anonymous offer on the domain:
After doing some research on the company, Domain Name Sales, I found that I could use an escrow service to anonymously bid on the domain. So I signed up for Escrow.com, and entered a $30 bid for bradfrost.com.
I’m not sure what Frost saw that made him think this. Escrow.com doesn’t allow you to place offers on domains. He must have placed an offer through DomainNameSales.
He was surprised when DomainNameSales reached out to him. He thought he placed an anonymous offer, and wondered how DNS got his contact information.
In the end, he ended up paying $1,200 to get BradFrost.com. And he has some not-so-nice things to say about DomainNameSales.
Frost was clearly pissed that he had to pay someone to get “his” name. But if you look beyond that, a lot of his frustration was because he didn’t know how the system worked. The system is confusing, and only insiders who spend a lot of time with it know how it works. If it weren’t so confusing, it wouldn’t upset people as much.
(Hat tip: HotNameList)
This is a non-event that happens hundreds of times per day, every day.
Domains are investments and are one-of-a-kind, served on a first-come, first-serve (or highest bidding) basis.
It’s insight and foresight. Perhaps Brad should have picked up the phone or sent an email instead of remaining silent for 10/years. His fault.
If I happened to be looking for underground oil in North Dakota in 1995, maybe I wouldn’t be here buying/selling domains either. It’s purely opportunistic. First mover always has the advantage.
Just read the post over at Brad’s site. I think he’s confused about DomainNameSales.com. Just so you know Brad, they were not the owner of the domain name. They DomainNameSales are domain brokers, the negotiation decisions ultimately come down to the owner who listed their domain with DomainNameSales.
So many points in this story.
But the most important lesson I got from Brad Frost is that for over a decade, to present, he ONLY considers dot com as the extension worth waiting for; he advises all to stop reading and “snag your” dot com name now.
So to him, these new gTLDs, which I’m sure yields ample BradFrosts is not even a consideration.
no clue as to why he never contacted the previous owner in 10 years..
.net is available right now and presumably for the last 10 years
how many dozens or hundreds of brad frosts are there in the world? this guy is living a clueless bubble. this is my favorite quote from him
“$1,895! Holy shit! Highway robbery. This ain’t pets.com.”
Bahahaa.
Bubble is indeed the right word for it, as my entire career has involved buying new domains for $10. By comparison, you’re damn right $1,895 is expensive.
Frost,
Could you elaborate on why you didn’t register/use Brad Frost in other extensions?
Are you aware that ICANN has released various extension strings? You can now register BradFrost.website or BradFrost.Guru or BradFrost.whatever? There are over a thousand such gTLDs.
I’ll be very interested in what you have to say about this.
Thanks in advance.
lolol “bradfrost.guru” that’s funny.
https://twitter.com/brad_frost/status/541379374843703296
Buddy, I feel your pain. I recently moved to San Francisco, and some opportunistic bloodsucker had the gall to purchase MY house before I could. I say “my” home because for 5 years I’ve wanted to live by the water with a view of the Golden Gate bridge, and every year I wrote the homeowner to see if he wanted to sell. Then when the home foreclosed and I couldn’t figure out the process, a slimeball investor bought MY home. I would have been fine with that if it was some nice family or something, but it was just some predatory jerk investor who wasn’t even using it! (OK, maybe he was renting it to Bullshitty renters). And then he wanted $1.8M for it, just because that’s the price the market would sustain. Highway robbery! This isn’t the White House. Worst of all, the scumbag real estate broker who helped me successfully purchase MY house after I got confused on Trulia and tried to submit an offer through an escrow agent had the nerve to follow up later and ask for referrals. I get that it’s straight-up capitalism, but that doesn’t mean we should be OK with it. My advice is to stay far away from home-buying, and spend your time happily living (presumably without a home?). Of course for me getting my home was totally worth the price, but that doesn’t change my opinion on any of the preceding.
Nice summary using a comparable situation which captures the self-centered me-me-me world view of Brad Frost the website designer.
Where your analogy fails is the other guy who purchased the domain name was most likely not named Brad Frost. A house by the water with a view of the Golden Gate bridge is not an online identity that bears your name. He didn’t want the domain name just because he liked it, he wanted it because it was the same as his real name.
“you’re damn right $1,895 is expensive”
But you didn’t pay $1,895.
You paid $1,200.
Where did that price come from?
You. It’s what you offered.
Pro-tip: If you don’t want to pay $1200 for something, then don’t say you want to pay $1200 for something.
Hey Andrew,
Thanks for picking up the story, and for clarifying things for me. I addressed the post on my site: http://bradfrost.com/blog/link/how-most-people-see-domain-investors/
As for the other commenters, I did indeed try contacting the owner at least once a year via phone and email. Never got a response or got him on the phone. The domain was inactive for probably the last 5 years, which made things more frustrating.
Hi Brad,
Escrow.com provides the escrow for the sale of domain names, and they have an integration with DomainNameSales.com.
I’m a bit confused on how you believed you were placing a anonymous offer through Escrow.com, though. Can you give me a link to something?
Yeah I’m searching to find what would cause me to believe that, and am coming up short! A lot of the advice I received was from folks on Twitter, helping me feel out the whole process. My own Googling only led to ancient forums or DNS-company-hosted articles, so was really confused throughout the whole thing. What most likely happened was me conflating the many recommendations for using escrow services with being able to safely and anonymously place a bid on a website.
Which by the way, I still don’t know how I would go about that process!
Yes, it’s hard to place a truly anonymous offer. Maybe I’ll write a guide about how to do that.
GoDaddy and Network Solutions have an anonymous service, but you have to pay a fee upfront and they don’t guarantee a response by the domain name owner. Sedo lets you place a (mostly) anonymous offer on any domain that is listed for sale there, but that’s not all domains.
“was really confused throughout the whole thing”
So, of course, you should insult the people who got you wanted at the price you named, persuaded the owner to sell it at that price, corrected your own mistake in the escrow.com process, and then made sure you understood exactly what you needed to do to complete the transfer.
What did any of those people do to you but make sure you got what you wanted for ten years, and then thanked you for the opportunity to do so?
@Brad
You should really watch your words when talking about DomainNameSales, they provided you something you weren’t able to touch for a decade. If you make a living off this site, you are profiting from it. Most likely the previous owner passed away. DomainNameSales did nothing more than provide you with a fair price, and an open, and transparent transaction. Something you did not have the patience, or expertise to do on your own. Like many of your clients who come to you for web services, I am sure you do not provide them at cost, or for free.
You really sound like an uneducated fool, and only did your self a disservice, buy publishing such nonsense.
Brad,
You are confused about the process?
Apparently you never searched for the term “domain buyer broker”.
At least you now have the domain forever… unless you can’t figure out how to renew it every year.
Good luck.
Just to be clear upfront, DomainNameSales.com is a client of mine. These comments are made entirely in my personal capacity.
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Brad’s treatment of the previous owner is a prelude to what seems to be quite a mix of hostility issues:
“Now it’s pretty clear that the dude just wanted to showcase a few pictures of his hunting shenanigans, but the juxtaposition of stock corporate photos and big game hunting was both simultaneously hilarious and hard for me to handle. To twist the knife a little more…”
So, some guy also named “Brad Frost” having a personal webpage is “hard for me to handle”, and the author takes the audacity of the other Brad Frost as if it is some kind of personal attack – “To twist the knife a little more…”
Yes, Brad, that’s what the dude just wanted to do. What’s wrong with that?
Brad’s response to a courteous “thank you” is interesting:
“It’s not the picture of the company’s employees that pisses me off, it’s the picture of the company’s employees IN THE GODDAMN CARIBBEAN that pisses me off.”
How dare they not be in Akron!
Most of the people in that picture, Brad, are not even US citizens. DomainNameSales.com employs a diverse international and multi-lingual staff, and that beach is just across the road from the Governor’s Plaza office building where they work. Quite a few of the folks in that picture, Brad, were born and raised in Cayman. That is their home.
Your treatment of the other Brad Frost was bad enough. But it “pisses you off” that people are born, live and work in other countries?
Should all foreigners move to Akron, in order not to piss you off? Is there something about people in the Caribbean which bothers you?
Finally, it should be noted, as Andrew can check the WHOIS history on this one – NOBODY at DomainNameSales.com (or any affiliated company) registered this domain name or set the price for it.
DomainNameSales.com provides a listing service for people who want to sell domain names. DomainNameSales.com did not pick this domain name and did not register this domain name. The registrant of the domain name listed it for sale at DomainNameSales.com. It might have well been eBay or any other marketplace.
But what they get from a person obviously as big-hearted as Brad for communicating with him, persuading the registrant to come down to the figure that Brad himself came up with and offered, and even helping him out with the registrar transfer after the sale, is to be called names.
Brad, do you remember how Derek got the seller to come down on the price to meet your offer?
Do you remember how Helki sent you detailed instructions when you wanted to know how to transfer the domain name? She also called escrow.com for you, when you accidentally confirmed the transaction before the name had transferred – just to make sure that nothing went wrong with the transaction.
You were helped by the people in that picture every step of the way to assist you in getting something you wanted for ten years, Brad. In return for being thanked by them for the marginal commission they made on the price which, again, YOU set for the domain name, you insult their reputation and the region in the world where they dare to live their lives.
That’s a class act.
This “Brad” character is definitely NOT the smartest apple in the basket.
Have all the domainnamesales.com employees finished leaving their comments here.
What a bunch of scumbags you guys are. What are you doing borders on extortion.
Heh. Surprised it took so long for the trolls to come out.
TManti, I 100% agree. Great post!
Totally agree with TManti!
Heh, let’s hope Mr. Frost never sees the dnjournal.com weekly sales summary…he’d have a heart attack.
Bottom line is it’s obvious he got an absolute steal on his name and I definitely feel a greater appreciation for the Domain Name Sales crew. How they bend over backwards for clueless endusers for pennies in commissions puts them in the sainthood category. I always felt kind of bad quoting as low as $2k on some of my names there. Now I feel worse given this example of what they go through 😉
$1200 is a pretty good deal for getting not only your name (and one that must have thousands of other persons with the identical moniker in the USA/UK/Australia/New Zealand), and an aged domain that has always been active. I still haven’t put up a site for stevensikes.com or steve.me, but 2015 will be the year, I hope.
As for the people in the photo in the Caymans — they’re hardworking and amiable workers. Sales, Marketing,, Monetizing, site building, partnering. legal, acquisitions, and much more.
A photo, incidentally, that Brad Frost does not own the right to publish on his website.
I question what sort of “web expert” he is, given that on the website where he insults the people who helped him, he apparently believes he can appropriate the photographs of the other Brad Frost and of DomainNameSales.com and publish them without obtaining the permission of the copyright holder.
He goes out of his way to say that there was nothing unlawful involved, and then he goes right ahead and violates the law.
Notice also that GoDaddy – who was perfectly happy not to help him at all – escapes his misdirected bile.
Brad,
If you are “not fine” with people buying domains they think they can sell for a profit that means you are a communist.
Are you a communist or a capitalist?
I guess next you will start demanding that there should be some politbyroo/committee or central planning commission setup and thousands of bureaucrats should be hired to consider applications for domains so a bureaucrat could make the decision instead of a free market making the decision who gets a domain when it is free or becomes free.
Creating more bureaucracy/statism in domains would create more waste and lead to a situation where some bureaucrat would decide who of the Brad Frosts is most worthy of the domain and most likely that would have led to you losing out on the bureaucrat bingo and some other Brad Frost would have gotten the domain and you would live for the rest of your life knowing you will never get the domain you had wanted for 10 years.
Instead of whining you should thank your lucky stars that a domain investor bought the domain because that meant you had the chance to buy the domain you have been wanting for 10 years.
If some other Brad Frost would have registered the domain instead of a domain investor then you might have had to wait another 10-20 years or even longer.
Please stop with your anti-capitalist communismesque whining and be thankful that a free market created an opportunity for you to finally after 10 years of waiting and dreaming to purchase the domain for a price you offered.
And when it comes to the terms “assholes” and “snakes” you called domain investors let me tell you something:
Using these kind of terms just shows everybody what a sad hate-filled person you are.
And you handily also equated both of these terms also to “used car salesmen” and “seo gurus” so you called domain investors, seo gurus and car salesmen “assholes” and “snakes”.
I hope you never in your life have to buy a car and I hope you never in your life have to buy seo consulting because if you get any other response from these professions other than “F.U.” I would be higly surprised.
Oh, you happen to design websites for a living.
I hope every “seo guru” who you equated to “assholes” and “snakes” refuses to do any SEO work on any website designed by you.
I hope every domain investor refuses to sell any domains to any company that uses your webdesign services.
I hope you yourself realize that you spent 1200 dollars to get a domain you wanted and dreamed about for 10 years and called people who helped you “assholes” and “snakes” after they helped you to make your dream come true.
If other web designers want to work with a person with your kind of attitude I would be highly surprised because if you call people who help you fulfill a 10-year dream “snakes” and “assholes” I’m pretty sure you would also call fellow web designers “snakes” and “assholes” in heartbeat.
Have a nice day.
You domainers are a sad lot. I agree with Brad.
Jay, he’s obviously young and idealistic and with most people that age, they are indeed clueless about how the real world operates. But that will no doubt catch up with him, as will a tempering of his youthful anger/ego.
But, speaking of naivete, I’m more curious about how a professional “web designer” cannot know how the domain aftermarket works? No familiarity with Afternic or GD premium at all? Or even the basics of the redemption cycle and that Namejet exists?
I would have thought that right after billable hours is discussed, costs for acquiring the desired domain would be next, especially given how expensive the acquisition process usually is. It seems that a thorough analysis of project costs is impossible without knowing this segment reasonably well.
For a person so clueless and so full of hatefulness and so ready to throw vicious insults towards domain investors and SEO consultants web designer Brad Frost sure has many big time clients:
http://bradfrost.com/web/
Brad Frost claims to have created:
html, css for TechCrunch
html, css for Entertainment Weekly
frontend development, mobile strategy for Tiffany Mobile E-commerce
html, css for MasterCard Mobile Site
html, css for Verizon Residential
html, css, javascript for Nike Gear Up
html, css, javascript for R/GA Mobile Site
html, css, javascript, freemarker for Nike Football iPad Website
frontend development for Nike WBF Mobile Website
wordpress, html, css, javascript, php for Centrum Nutrition for the Real World
identity, strategy, mobile, frontend, wordpress for Casey Templeton Photography
identity, strategy, HTML, CSS, Javascript, Wordpress for Complete Care Chiropractic
Magento, PHP, HTML, CSS, Javascript for Diptyque Paris
magento, php, html, css, javascript for Kabiri Jewelry
html, css, javascript, flash, strategy for Lord and Taylor
wordpress, html, css, javascript, php for Pod1 Blog
Brad Frost:
“Dealing with Assholes”
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“After my seething rage subsided, I had to decide whether this cost was worth it. Ultimately, I knew it was. My reputation, my business, is my name. Owning my name is extremely valuable, and in the long run the cost is totally worth it. Plus it’s a business expense.”
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“I normally don’t like speaking ill about people or companies, but these guys are snakes. They sit at the same table as the shady used car salesmen and SEO gurus.”
http://bradfrost.com/blog/post/bradfrost-dot-com/
– website designer Brad Frost thinks all domain investors, seo gurus and car salesmen are “assholes” and “snakes”
Every seo guru, domain investor and car salesman should make sure website designer Brad Frost gets exactly the reputation he deserves and that it spreads as wide as possible and if a company that pays Brad Frost money for his website designs needs SEO or help in purchasing domains they hear what kind of hate-filled words Brad Frost spreads about the people who are the ones who might get that company that great SEO solution or that great domain solution.
“Every seo guru, domain investor and car salesman should make sure website designer Brad Frost gets exactly the reputation he deserves and that it spreads as wide as possible”
Oh how nice of you! you do not sound like an asshole at all!
Brad Frost is calling seo gurus and domain investors “assholes” and “snakes” in his blog where he spreads hate towards the very people who helped him finally get the domain he had been trying to get himself unsuccessfully for 10 years.
That tells all anybody needs to know about the personality and character of Brad Frost the website designer.
If some seo guru wants to work with a company who has purchased website design from Brad Frost who has stated he thinks seo gurus are “assholes” and “snakes” I would be highly surprised.
If some domain investor wants to sell a premium quality domain to a company who has purchased website design from Brad Frost who has stated he thinks domain investors are “assholes” and “snakes” I would be highly surprised.
One of the points I’d like to emphasize from this article is that, for the first time, I get to see a true Sales Price from an end-user; and who woulda thunk it, the price is far, far more realistic than those reported by the usual bunch; as a matter of fact, that is the first time I’ve seen a sales price lower than $5,000!
Bravo, JB! That’s one of your best arguments ever! The only thing you forgot to mention was the compensation to those brokers who did all this work to help him get the domain of his the year dreams, was not $1200 but 15% of that at best.
ten year dreams, I meant
1 – BradFrost (.) com kind of sucks in my opinion. If this is representative of his work, I can understand why $1,200 would be a lot of money for him to spend on the name. He could have purchased a $50 dollar template
2 – This guy seems to ooze negative emotion and feels entitled to things that don’t belong to him.
3 – Brad is penalizing himself by displaying his arrogance, ignorance, poor temperament, and lack of gratitude on his own blog. Dunce cap territory.
-William
Just for the record I like dns.com, but I have to admit that almost every
single domain I have ever looked at on their site has just been well
astronomically overpriced in my opinion. So I can understand this
Brad guy’s beef, but no one really forced him to pay $1200 for the domain.
apparently he just wanted it that badly. Especially considering that is
a domain that could of likely been registered sooner had he had the
urge for under $10 bucks if done earlier.
Anybody who pays over $500 for a domain name that is obviously NOT
a premium domain name, I think just has the money to burn and doesnt
really see the price as an issue, because in most people’s book this just
doesnt make sense. Now maybe if the domain would of been oh say
DonaldTrump.com then I could see it. Maybe even with a few zero’s
extra lol 😉
So a web designer is having trouble with internet stuff ………ummmm
In defense of the guy, you all would have probably been as pissed off as him if the domain name was your real name and if you weren’t in the domaining business. Your arguments that he should be thankful to DNS and to the seller for allowing him to get the domain are laughable, because had DNS and the seller not been there he would have got the domain for 20 bucks in the first place.
I find it questionable to buy an online identity for the sole reason that it has the same name as a real person only to sell it to that person at a higher price. To me a guy named Brad Frost is more entitled to the online identity bradfrost.com than someone who grabs bradfrost.com only to sell it to said Brad Frost, because let’s face it here the value of the name comes from the fact that people are named just like that, not because it has some generic meaning.
That you do it anyway, fine, the law doesn’t prevent you to. But then don’t get up on your high horses when the guy gets pissed off, of course he was gonna get pissed off, and so would you have been in his place. Don’t forget $1,200 is a lot of money for many people.
“had DNS and the seller not been there he would have got the domain for 20 bucks in the first place”‘
That’s a common fantasy, and you do not logically connect the existence of DNS to the fact that someone registered this domain name. You are saying that the person who caught the expiring name and registered it would have been incapable of selling it on Sedo, Afternic or any other marketplace?
The registrant listed it at DNS. Had DNS not been there, the registrant would have listed it somewhere else.
DNS had nothing to do with the fact that the name was registered to someone other than this particular Brad Frost. Nothing.
“Don’t forget $1,200 is a lot of money for many people.”
Mark, I would really like you to read Brad’s story again and answer this question honestly:
Where did the $1,200 price come from?
It was Brad’s OWN offer. It was the price HE wanted.
The only thing DNS did was to get the seller to come down to what Brad said he wanted to pay.
“That’s a common fantasy, and you do not logically connect the existence of DNS to the fact that someone registered this domain name.”
DNS is not specifically at fault for someone registering this domain name of course, the seller just happened to list it there. And I agree that DNS helped Brad get the domain once it was listed there. All I’m pointing out is that without the domaining business Brad would have been able to get the domain right away. You can’t say that domainers and domain marketplaces allowed him to get the domain while they were the ones that prevented him from getting it in the first place. I’m including domain marketplaces because I find it likely that if there were no domain marketplaces the other guy wouldn’t have tried to catch it, as marketplaces facilitate the whole process. Of course it is also possible that he would have caught it and tried to sell it anyway.
“It was Brad’s OWN offer. It was the price HE wanted.”
The price he wanted was 20 bucks, $1,200 was the price he was reluctantly willing to pay after he was told the seller expected $1,895 for it, and after waiting years to get the domain.
I can totally understand his frustration towards the seller. His frustration towards domain marketplaces (in this case DNS) may be misplaced. He may have thought DNS and the seller to be the one and the same, considering his lack of knowledge about domaining.
How exactly did domainers and domain marketplaces “prevent” him from getting the domain? He had the same chance as anyone else in the world at obtaining the domain after it entered redemption.
In this case, given the uniqueness of the name, if he had entered a $69 bid at Namejet or Snapnames I assure you he would have had an excellent chance at getting it with no competition (and saved $1000). Note that money and/or luck are the only factors in determining who gets the domain, the fact that his given name matches the domain name gives him exactly zero rights to it (trademark issues are a separate consideration).
So the problem is you’re conflating drop catching and domain sales; they’re two separate things. He should have directed the vitriol at the dropcatching side (Godaddy backorders), not DNS or the seller.
And of course save some for himself for not taking the time to educate himself on the whole process.
(As an aside, given the rise over the past few years of hugedomains and the like, how does Godaddy catch anything at all for backorders?)
That is a similar fantasy as “if this domain investor would not own this domain I could register it and build a site”
The domains registered by domain investors would most likely be registered anyway if no domain investors existed.
The only difference would be that they would be unavailable for sale so in fact domain investors have done a huge service for johnny-come-latelies who want a good domain and want to develop a site now.
Thanks to domain investors many domains that would be completely un-available for 10+ years like bradfrost.com was are available for a reaonable price for somebody to purchase and build a site.
When it comes to the claim that if a domain investor had not registered bradfrost.com then the whining person who calls domain investors and seo consultants “assholes” and “snakes” could have just registered it.
That is not true since some of the other Brad Frosts could have registered it and then the Brad Frost who waited for 10 years would be waiting another 10-20 years.
If it were up to me this Brad Frost would be much more deserving of bradfrost.com:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Frost
Mark, no, a person who understands how the real world works would know there is no free lunch. He would research as much as it takes to understand how the domain resale market works, then ballpark what a possible price range would be. No whining or getting pissed necessary.
Domains are property and they operate under the free market principle. If $1200 was too expensive for him then there are tons of other extensions available for $10 or less.
Try walking into a Lexus dealership and demand to buy a new vehicle for $10k. Throwing a tempertantrum that the dealership is not selling new cars for $10k is *not* going to make a difference. It will only make you look like a petulant child. Simply leave and go down the street to the Kia dealership.
Just because you feel entitled to someone else’s property at a non-market based price does not mean that the free market should bow to that sense of entitlement. As a matter of fact, he should feel lucky that he got his desired name for such a decent price in the free market.
Then shut up and move on with his business instead of lashing out against the broker that bent over backwards to help get the domain in the first place. That’s really what this is about.
I think Mr. Frost’s comment here:
“It’s not the picture of the company’s employees that pisses me off, it’s the picture of the company’s employees IN THE GODDAMN CARIBBEAN that pisses me off.”
….tells me all I need to know about what goes on in the mind of Brad Frost. It is probably a good thing he is self-employed and does not have to put up with a diverse, primarily non-US citizen work environment.
I agree with most of what you say but you gotta figure the guy did pay
150X what it would of cost to register the domain had he of registered
it himself prior. Figuring a dot com can be registerd for around
$8.00-8.50 at most discount registries like namebright, 1and1 etc.
I think he would of been better served instead of whining about the
price to just of registered the .net, but I guess that tells us something
about where .com ranks in most peoples mind. Even after all these
years there is still no substitute for .com being king.
Brad Frost has little boy troll syndrome, as long as he is behind a computer hurling insults he feels he is in his bubble.
Well Brad, it just popped.
Many of your remarks are untrue, and not accurate.
I have worked with Domain Name Sales on both sides of the transaction. They are a first class firm.
The domain was caught by a different backorder company, they have a sales outlet, you spoke with one of their brokers who did their job, and got you the price you presented them.
Other than giving you the opportunity to make even more money, and have the vanity of owning your .com annualized over a decade at a cost of $10 per month, what are you crying about?
Stupid post.
I’m pretty sure everyone who doesn’t work in the domain name re-selling market thinks people who take a product that normally costs $10 and then recharges it at 1100% markup aren’t playing fair.
I think you guys need to take a look in the mirror what resellers charge is not fair market price and I think if you’re honest you know it.
I see a few people mentioning the great SEO work DNS had done. For those who use the internet and keep hitting those god awful bits of SPAM that make the web just a slightly more irritating place this kind of SEO does nothing to make the world a better place.
Also to address the 15% commission comment. Someone paid a few dollars for this so if they make $180 and it cost $10 who is the asshole getting the $1010? The small people working for them aren’t the problem, it’s these people.
But I’m probably just a naive fool who should get on with screwing everyone for as much as I can get, after all it’s all about me right? 😉
Your comment is interesting in that it exemplifies how some folks instinctively think they can understand something without actually researching a topic. Then have no qualms about voicing an opinion based on that false understanding with moral superiority.
But of course they almost always get it completely wrong, so far off it reaches into the realm of comical and embarrassing. Which is exactly what both you and Mr. Frost did.
TL;DR: Pretty much everything you just wrote is factually incorrect and shows a complete lack of understanding of this transaction.
Who set the price at which Brad bought the domain name?
I’m really surprised at how many people can read this story and still not see that Brad Frost is the guy priced this domain at $1200.
Has has so many opinions about assumed facts. It’s a shame he is so ungrateful and hateful towards those that helped him. He would have never got that domain without help, period.
His site says he ‘tweets’ a lot. Is that a job skill worth considering for hiring someone….LOL? He’s got a long way to go.
https://news.layervault.com/stories/39772-a-story-about-finally-acquiring-bradfrostcom – apparently people like DNS are the ‘mafia’. People really need to get clued in before spouting nonsense.
$1,200 seems like a really good deal for the buyer.