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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2009/09/11/domain-name-appraisal-scam-update/comment-page-1/#comment-1466353</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 07:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently received a domain appraisal scam attempt from buy-domain-hosting.com, This contact started off with stating his name is Michael but, after doing a little bit of research I was able to uncover this company’s true meaning to scam domain owners into getting an appraisal but not continuing to make any legit offers for my domains.

DO NOT TRUST BUY-DOMAIN-HOSTING.COM THEY ARE DOMAIN APPRAISAL SCAMMERS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently received a domain appraisal scam attempt from buy-domain-hosting.com, This contact started off with stating his name is Michael but, after doing a little bit of research I was able to uncover this company’s true meaning to scam domain owners into getting an appraisal but not continuing to make any legit offers for my domains.</p>
<p>DO NOT TRUST BUY-DOMAIN-HOSTING.COM THEY ARE DOMAIN APPRAISAL SCAMMERS!</p>
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		<title>By: MIKE</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2009/09/11/domain-name-appraisal-scam-update/comment-page-1/#comment-507034</link>
		<dc:creator>MIKE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BEWARE OF Namesaleshop.com . they sent me email through: hamilton@domainsecondhand.com

We invest in domain names. What is your price for the domain name?

We have a solid budget but we offer reasonable offers only. We will not
overpay. If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

As a seller you should provide me with an appraisal first. This is a reasonable practice.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It&#039;s very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

I&#039;ve found not all the appraisals are accurate. So I accept real manual appraisals from trusted sources only.

I don&#039;t trust $14-$20 services. Nobody will do a research for $14. We need a real manual service.

I researched several companies and here are the results:

I wanted to engage AccurateDomains.com as appraiser but looks like this company has very bad reputation
Just read this blog
accuratedomains.com
So I&#039;m not going to accept this fraudulent service.

I also considered Afternic Domain Name Search: Buy, Sell, Resell, Park &amp; Purchase Domain Names for Sale, but now it&#039;s clear their service is not reliable enough.
Just read this:
Domain Brokers
&quot;Capsule Review: After lots of complaints, Afternic is no longer a recommended service. We will re-review the service in the near future.&quot;

Another complaint
Lawsuit alleges dealings in stolen domain name &#124; Pinsent Masons LLP


I was told about manual research service from ■ DomainMart - Domain Name Consulting (Valuation, Appraisal, Portfolio Management, Investment, Selecting TLDs), Corporate Training. It costs - $200/hour.

Many experienced sellers suggested us Namesaleshop.com as a trustworth manual service. They charge per name not per hour. We&#039;ve read only positive comments about them. And I have my own positive experience with this company and their support.

SO PEOPLE WATCH OUT, THEY ARE USING THIS TACTIC TO MAKE PEOPLE GO TO NAMESALESHOP AND CHARGE THEM MONEY, THIS IS MISLEADING AND RIP OFF AND THEY EVEN TALK BAD ABOUT WEBSITES DEALING WITH DOMAIN NAMES SINCE AGES, AS U CAN SEE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BEWARE OF Namesaleshop.com . they sent me email through: <a href="mailto:hamilton@domainsecondhand.com">hamilton@domainsecondhand.com</a></p>
<p>We invest in domain names. What is your price for the domain name?</p>
<p>We have a solid budget but we offer reasonable offers only. We will not<br />
overpay. If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.</p>
<p>As a seller you should provide me with an appraisal first. This is a reasonable practice.</p>
<p>Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It&#8217;s very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found not all the appraisals are accurate. So I accept real manual appraisals from trusted sources only.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t trust $14-$20 services. Nobody will do a research for $14. We need a real manual service.</p>
<p>I researched several companies and here are the results:</p>
<p>I wanted to engage AccurateDomains.com as appraiser but looks like this company has very bad reputation<br />
Just read this blog<br />
accuratedomains.com<br />
So I&#8217;m not going to accept this fraudulent service.</p>
<p>I also considered Afternic Domain Name Search: Buy, Sell, Resell, Park &amp; Purchase Domain Names for Sale, but now it&#8217;s clear their service is not reliable enough.<br />
Just read this:<br />
Domain Brokers<br />
&#8220;Capsule Review: After lots of complaints, Afternic is no longer a recommended service. We will re-review the service in the near future.&#8221;</p>
<p>Another complaint<br />
Lawsuit alleges dealings in stolen domain name | Pinsent Masons LLP</p>
<p>I was told about manual research service from ■ DomainMart &#8211; Domain Name Consulting (Valuation, Appraisal, Portfolio Management, Investment, Selecting TLDs), Corporate Training. It costs &#8211; $200/hour.</p>
<p>Many experienced sellers suggested us Namesaleshop.com as a trustworth manual service. They charge per name not per hour. We&#8217;ve read only positive comments about them. And I have my own positive experience with this company and their support.</p>
<p>SO PEOPLE WATCH OUT, THEY ARE USING THIS TACTIC TO MAKE PEOPLE GO TO NAMESALESHOP AND CHARGE THEM MONEY, THIS IS MISLEADING AND RIP OFF AND THEY EVEN TALK BAD ABOUT WEBSITES DEALING WITH DOMAIN NAMES SINCE AGES, AS U CAN SEE.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2009/09/11/domain-name-appraisal-scam-update/comment-page-1/#comment-504595</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got scammed but it was more out of curiosity than greed.I don&#039;t really deal in domain names but I had a domain name I thought was pretty good so I wasn&#039;t completely surprised to be contacted out of the blue. The appraisal price was just twenty bucks at max-apprais.com so I figured what the heck....see what it&#039;s worth. The appraisal came in quite high (I don&#039;t know much about it but the criteria seemed sensible and a lot of info was provided in the report) so I decided to dig deeper and also have sedo.com appraise it. I received an email from them alerting me to the scam and offering a refund but decided to play it out. So......as scam&#039;s go I feel foolish but thankfully it&#039;s only twenty bucks as opposed to hundreds or thousands....just curious if the &quot;report&quot; from max-apprais.com is total rubbish or if it has any validity at all....my guess is rubbish but I&#039;ll follow up when my appraisal comes back from sedo.com and we&#039;ll see how it plays out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got scammed but it was more out of curiosity than greed.I don&#8217;t really deal in domain names but I had a domain name I thought was pretty good so I wasn&#8217;t completely surprised to be contacted out of the blue. The appraisal price was just twenty bucks at max-apprais.com so I figured what the heck&#8230;.see what it&#8217;s worth. The appraisal came in quite high (I don&#8217;t know much about it but the criteria seemed sensible and a lot of info was provided in the report) so I decided to dig deeper and also have sedo.com appraise it. I received an email from them alerting me to the scam and offering a refund but decided to play it out. So&#8230;&#8230;as scam&#8217;s go I feel foolish but thankfully it&#8217;s only twenty bucks as opposed to hundreds or thousands&#8230;.just curious if the &#8220;report&#8221; from max-apprais.com is total rubbish or if it has any validity at all&#8230;.my guess is rubbish but I&#8217;ll follow up when my appraisal comes back from sedo.com and we&#8217;ll see how it plays out.</p>
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		<title>By: TrumanW</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2009/09/11/domain-name-appraisal-scam-update/comment-page-1/#comment-496963</link>
		<dc:creator>TrumanW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another variant, from a Brad Whitman, whitman@domainsecondhand.com



&quot;1095. Ok
Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. 

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It&#039;s very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. 
 
To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.
 
Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://webdiscuss.007sites.com/Archive-07-2009/9172614.htm
 
If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly.  It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we&#039;ll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method:  Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another variant, from a Brad Whitman, <a href="mailto:whitman@domainsecondhand.com">whitman@domainsecondhand.com</a></p>
<p>&#8220;1095. Ok<br />
Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?</p>
<p>Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. </p>
<p>Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It&#8217;s very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. </p>
<p>To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.</p>
<p>Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:<br />
<a href="http://webdiscuss.007sites.com/Archive-07-2009/9172614.htm" rel="nofollow">http://webdiscuss.007sites.com/Archive-07-2009/9172614.htm</a></p>
<p>If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly.  It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% &#8211; 15% discount.</p>
<p>After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we&#8217;ll continue our negotiations.</p>
<p>What is your preferred payment method:  Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?</p>
<p>Hope we can come to an agreement fast.</p>
<p>Looking forward to your reply.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2009/09/11/domain-name-appraisal-scam-update/comment-page-1/#comment-496881</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Report them to the Federal Trade Commission here https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Report them to the Federal Trade Commission here <a href="https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/" rel="nofollow">https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Added Note: I checked out the domain sent from Bradley which was http://webdiscuss.007sites.com/Archive-07-2009/8152719.htm

Vasquez sent me to the same site, different page with His NAME on it. I suppose they have different pages for their particular name. Very Clever. My page from him was
http://webdiscuss.007sites.com/Archive-07-2009/8163514.htm

Other than the name change to show their names as the one apparently asking for advice the rest is the same. Same advisors and NameSeller (good choice for trying to convince us he is a professional) of course shows up to let everyone know that the best practice is to use their expert validator.

Sharron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Added Note: I checked out the domain sent from Bradley which was <a href="http://webdiscuss.007sites.com/Archive-07-2009/8152719.htm" rel="nofollow">http://webdiscuss.007sites.com/Archive-07-2009/8152719.htm</a></p>
<p>Vasquez sent me to the same site, different page with His NAME on it. I suppose they have different pages for their particular name. Very Clever. My page from him was<br />
<a href="http://webdiscuss.007sites.com/Archive-07-2009/8163514.htm" rel="nofollow">http://webdiscuss.007sites.com/Archive-07-2009/8163514.htm</a></p>
<p>Other than the name change to show their names as the one apparently asking for advice the rest is the same. Same advisors and NameSeller (good choice for trying to convince us he is a professional) of course shows up to let everyone know that the best practice is to use their expert validator.</p>
<p>Sharron</p>
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		<title>By: Sharron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there
I&#039;m so glad I found this. I thought something was fishy. I got the same email from Pedro Vasquez from Bridge Technologies LLC. I had my site up for sale on flippa.com so was not surprised to get an email regarding the sale, but I figured something was fishy. He is in a big hurry for me to validate the site through the only source he trusts www.namesaleshop.com  I did a search and sure enough he&#039;s a scammer. No wonder he is trying to pressure me and tells me he has to hurry because he is going on vacation. No kidding! A Vacation with the money from people he has scammed. I&#039;m not paying for his vacation!
Thanks for posting so others can know about this scam.
Sharron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there<br />
I&#8217;m so glad I found this. I thought something was fishy. I got the same email from Pedro Vasquez from Bridge Technologies LLC. I had my site up for sale on flippa.com so was not surprised to get an email regarding the sale, but I figured something was fishy. He is in a big hurry for me to validate the site through the only source he trusts <a href="http://www.namesaleshop.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.namesaleshop.com</a>  I did a search and sure enough he&#8217;s a scammer. No wonder he is trying to pressure me and tells me he has to hurry because he is going on vacation. No kidding! A Vacation with the money from people he has scammed. I&#8217;m not paying for his vacation!<br />
Thanks for posting so others can know about this scam.<br />
Sharron</p>
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