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	<title>Comments on: GroupValuation.com Offers Domain Appraisals from Peers</title>
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		<title>By: tw morse</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2009/09/10/groupvaluation-com-offers-domain-appraisals-from-peers/comment-page-1/#comment-480463</link>
		<dc:creator>tw morse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seems to be up/ sorry/ may have been network issues on my end.

thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seems to be up/ sorry/ may have been network issues on my end.</p>
<p>thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Allemann</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2009/09/10/groupvaluation-com-offers-domain-appraisals-from-peers/comment-page-1/#comment-480432</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Allemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ tw morse - up for me, try again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ tw morse &#8211; up for me, try again</p>
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		<title>By: tw morse</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2009/09/10/groupvaluation-com-offers-domain-appraisals-from-peers/comment-page-1/#comment-480369</link>
		<dc:creator>tw morse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>site seems to be down.</description>
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		<title>By: Alex Tajirian</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2009/09/10/groupvaluation-com-offers-domain-appraisals-from-peers/comment-page-1/#comment-479374</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Tajirian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are all missing the beauty of the implementation!

Crowdsourcing does not work when the opinions of participants are biased. Sellers tend to over-state, while buyers under-state value. Moreover, if the opinion providers are clueless about value, as in guessing the distance between the earth and the moon, the average of their opinions will remain clueless.

Unlike forum-based crowdsourcing, the judges in GroupValutation are drawn from the pool of domain owners who are on different sides of a transaction at various times. Thus, their incentive is to provide an unbiased option because their long-term interest is in an unbiased valutation of their domain names. Moreover, the number of opinions can be larger than that of forums, a requirement for meaningful average appraisal value.

It should be noted that this is not the first service to specialize in crowdsourcing-based domain name appraisals, but it is the first with a beautiful mechanism.

The post does not explain why you should take the results with a “grain of salt.” As noted above, a large number of biased guess does not result in an accurate average. Thus, the post’s recommendation that the resulting appraisal is “one more data point in a long list of valuation approaches” should be taken with a grain of salt. Moreover, crowdsourcing is the only robust technique to value non-generic domain names, and thus, the only reliable data point. Furthermore, a biased comment can be more harmful than numbers provided by robust estimation techniques.

Nevertheless, GroupValuation will need to monitor the most active users.

As I am not affiliated with GroupValuation, their site does not make it clear whether they are aware of their beautiful solution or whether they don’t think it is important to publicize.

Go GroupValuation. A beautiful first pass!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are all missing the beauty of the implementation!</p>
<p>Crowdsourcing does not work when the opinions of participants are biased. Sellers tend to over-state, while buyers under-state value. Moreover, if the opinion providers are clueless about value, as in guessing the distance between the earth and the moon, the average of their opinions will remain clueless.</p>
<p>Unlike forum-based crowdsourcing, the judges in GroupValutation are drawn from the pool of domain owners who are on different sides of a transaction at various times. Thus, their incentive is to provide an unbiased option because their long-term interest is in an unbiased valutation of their domain names. Moreover, the number of opinions can be larger than that of forums, a requirement for meaningful average appraisal value.</p>
<p>It should be noted that this is not the first service to specialize in crowdsourcing-based domain name appraisals, but it is the first with a beautiful mechanism.</p>
<p>The post does not explain why you should take the results with a “grain of salt.” As noted above, a large number of biased guess does not result in an accurate average. Thus, the post’s recommendation that the resulting appraisal is “one more data point in a long list of valuation approaches” should be taken with a grain of salt. Moreover, crowdsourcing is the only robust technique to value non-generic domain names, and thus, the only reliable data point. Furthermore, a biased comment can be more harmful than numbers provided by robust estimation techniques.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, GroupValuation will need to monitor the most active users.</p>
<p>As I am not affiliated with GroupValuation, their site does not make it clear whether they are aware of their beautiful solution or whether they don’t think it is important to publicize.</p>
<p>Go GroupValuation. A beautiful first pass!</p>
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		<title>By: BuySellDomains</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2009/09/10/groupvaluation-com-offers-domain-appraisals-from-peers/comment-page-1/#comment-529722</link>
		<dc:creator>BuySellDomains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @dnnews: GroupValuation.com Offers Domain Appraisals from Peers - http://tinyurl.com/kn4ngy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @dnnews: GroupValuation.com Offers Domain Appraisals from Peers &#8211; <a href="http://tinyurl.com/kn4ngy" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/kn4ngy</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Ed Muller</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2009/09/10/groupvaluation-com-offers-domain-appraisals-from-peers/comment-page-1/#comment-477897</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Muller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried this out with both great and fair names. It was nice to see that the fair domains got low appraisals and the great domains got high appraisals. Very interesting concept going forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried this out with both great and fair names. It was nice to see that the fair domains got low appraisals and the great domains got high appraisals. Very interesting concept going forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Ohashi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Ohashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>human appraisals are about quality, not quantity.  Some people really know what they are talking about, some are clueless, this really doesn&#039;t seem designed to give &#039;good&#039; feedback.  Forums, depending on forum, offer a place where some real experts are you can actually gain some real critical feedback.  I don&#039;t see this as adding any benefit to the community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>human appraisals are about quality, not quantity.  Some people really know what they are talking about, some are clueless, this really doesn&#8217;t seem designed to give &#8216;good&#8217; feedback.  Forums, depending on forum, offer a place where some real experts are you can actually gain some real critical feedback.  I don&#8217;t see this as adding any benefit to the community.</p>
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