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  • ccTLD Danger: Argentina to Take Away .AR Domain Names

    1. BY - May 29, 2009
    2. Policy & Law
    3. 19 Comments

    ccTLDs carry lots of risks with the rewards.

    With TRAFFIC ccTLDs just around the corner, it’s only fitting that another example of the risks of registering country code domain names should pop up this month.

    As spotted by Internet Commerce Association, The Argentina Ministry of Foreign affairs is limiting the number of com.ar and org.ar domain names that any one entity can register to 200. The organization is doing this because it believes there is abuse of the system by registrants registering many domain names without intending to use them.

    This change will also affect existing registrants, as they will only be allowed to renew 200 domain names. So if someone has 1,000 .ar domains, they will have to select the best 200 to keep.

    Country code domain names can be very rewarding to investors, but they carry extreme risks. Countries have lots of leeway in how they manage them and can even censor certain types of domain names. This timely move should make for interesting debate at next week’s conference in Amsterdam.

    [See rough translation of resolution limiting registrations to 200.]

19 Comments
  • Perry King says:

    May 29, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    or, he can just open another 4 bogus companies, and push the 800 domains over.

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  • question says:

    May 30, 2009 at 1:30 am

    Not sure ‘danger’ is the best way to characterize a country just trying to find some balance and limit runs on its namespace.

    Shouldn’t all countries vigorously protect and promote their ccTLD from abuse?

  • “or, he can just open another 4 bogus companies, and push the 800 domains over”

    Imho they locked current status so no sale or fictive sale possible

  • Francois says:

    May 30, 2009 at 4:19 am

    This is a missleading title :)

    In fact set a volume limitation it’s something I find sane.

    • “This is a missleading title :)

      In fact set a volume limitation it’s something I find sane.”

      But they aren’t just limiting them, they’re taking away ones that people already have. If you have 1,000 of them, you have to give back 800.

  • I will not be surprise if other ccTLD will follow this example.

    And I will not be surprise if this will have to .com .net or .org.. Yucks!

    Have a nice day,
    Emil

  • I will not be surprise if other ccTLD will follow this example.

    And I will not be surprise if this will happen to .com .net or .org.. Yucks!

    Have a nice day,
    Emil

  • I second Francois comment regarding the title headings.

  • I can understand the reason why the government in Argentina is doing this, maybe some of you don’t know, but domains in Argentina are FREE, yes FREE, and a lot of people has been registering thousands of domains without giving them any use.

    In order to register a .AR you have to be a citizen or have a local presence, some registrar have local presence and they sell .AR domains with a price over 100 Euros, that’s the reg fee.

    If you have friends in Argentina you can always ask them to register domains for you.

    That’s why i can understand the position of the government in Argentina of limiting the domains, because they’re given free, and some people abuse.

    With other TLD’s like com, net or org it doesn’t make sense, and i believe it will never happen, because domains are paid, they’re not free to register.

  • c'mon domains says:

    May 30, 2009 at 8:29 am

    AA by your logic, ICANN could decide the same thing tomorrow. This is not a CCtld specific issue but one that could affect any tld. Stop with the nonsense and scare tactics please. I guess you need more readers and responses.

    • c’mon domains – no, ICANN could not decide the same thing tomorrow. It has to come from bottom up consensus policy. ccTLDs are different. I’m not trying to scare anyone; this is a topic Rick Latona (who is pushing ccTLDs and hosting next weeks confrence) has talked a lot about, and his ccTLD message board talks about which countries are problems. ccTLDs carry risk and reward.

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  • c'mon domains says:

    May 31, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    “no, ICANN could not decide the same thing tomorrow. It has to come from bottom up consensus policy.”

    Right and each CCtld has their own organizations to vote on or mandate these sorts of decisions. Their own mini ICANNs if you will. They must vote on and pass new rules and regulations just like ICANN does.

    If you want to make a judgement, do it on a case by case basis instead making a blanket statemnet across a whole segement that operate quite independently from each other.

    • @c’mon domains – then we’re both in understanding how cc TLDs work. Each country gets to decide, which is why you need to be careful. And as many problems as we seem to have with ICANN, they won’t wake up one day and say poker domains should not be allowed.

  • They are not taking the domains away, but they will not allow them to renew. Plus domains will expire in a years time if not renewed.
    There are 2 million .ar domains registered,of which almost 500.000 (are in hands of less than 900 registrants. These same registrants have another 200.000 domain requests pending approval. If that is not abuse, what is?
    Also I must observe that some of the top 10 registrant entities, called “Jose Florentino Walker”, “Matias Walker”, “Instituto Byte de Jose F Walker”, and “Maria Alejandra Marengo” are actually the same couple of guys.
    Domains are free, that is correct, and while not illegal, it is morally upsetting to see a small group of people hijacking something that inially was for free, only to be able to sell it to you. They have no other use for it.

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