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	<title>Comments on: Telnic: A $35 Million Investment Gone Awry</title>
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		<title>By: Telsucks.Info</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/11/10/telnic-a-35-million-investment-gone-awry/comment-page-1/#comment-666221</link>
		<dc:creator>Telsucks.Info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@KilynnTor -- hmm, you try to &quot;sell&quot; the idea of TEL domain being superior over &quot;other&quot; tools such as Facebook?

Not a good idea.

First, I am owner of almost 200 TEL domains, and I have so far the most sophisticated software for management of TEL domains, TEL advertising and other features. I am programmer and I know TEL domains very well. Personally I have use for them, but as a matter of fact, it was a mistake, as I could register bunch of .INFO domains and have 1000% more of the benefits than I get from the very limited TEL domain.

Your statement comparing TEL domains to communities such as Facebook is bullshit.

Try finding your long time not seen friends on TEL domain, and try finding them on Facebook. 

You should not compare 200,000 TEL domains owned by maybe ONE QUARTER of that number, maybe 50,000 TEL domain owners, to the Facebook, having millions of users. It is not comparable. Not yet. Not now. Not in 10 years.

TEL is the WORST idea ever invented in TLD business.

It does not even work on the mobile phone as it should. It shows just some ugly page. Someone was working to have it ugly.

Man!

Don&#039;t try to delude people. TEL is usable, but .INFO is usable as well. MOBI, COM and NET and even .COM.PA is usable.

TEL offers to people basic Internet presence. We cannot speak of &quot;mobile&quot; presence, because their marketing is simply wrong and false. 

Even Google Site looks pretty well on mobile phone in comparison to TEL domain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@KilynnTor &#8212; hmm, you try to &#8220;sell&#8221; the idea of TEL domain being superior over &#8220;other&#8221; tools such as Facebook?</p>
<p>Not a good idea.</p>
<p>First, I am owner of almost 200 TEL domains, and I have so far the most sophisticated software for management of TEL domains, TEL advertising and other features. I am programmer and I know TEL domains very well. Personally I have use for them, but as a matter of fact, it was a mistake, as I could register bunch of .INFO domains and have 1000% more of the benefits than I get from the very limited TEL domain.</p>
<p>Your statement comparing TEL domains to communities such as Facebook is bullshit.</p>
<p>Try finding your long time not seen friends on TEL domain, and try finding them on Facebook. </p>
<p>You should not compare 200,000 TEL domains owned by maybe ONE QUARTER of that number, maybe 50,000 TEL domain owners, to the Facebook, having millions of users. It is not comparable. Not yet. Not now. Not in 10 years.</p>
<p>TEL is the WORST idea ever invented in TLD business.</p>
<p>It does not even work on the mobile phone as it should. It shows just some ugly page. Someone was working to have it ugly.</p>
<p>Man!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t try to delude people. TEL is usable, but .INFO is usable as well. MOBI, COM and NET and even .COM.PA is usable.</p>
<p>TEL offers to people basic Internet presence. We cannot speak of &#8220;mobile&#8221; presence, because their marketing is simply wrong and false. </p>
<p>Even Google Site looks pretty well on mobile phone in comparison to TEL domain.</p>
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		<title>By: KilynnTor</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/11/10/telnic-a-35-million-investment-gone-awry/comment-page-1/#comment-666215</link>
		<dc:creator>KilynnTor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) you have to be a member of facebook, twitter, what have you to get info.
2) these sites have friend caps and yes some people need to go over those.
3)Do you really want to have to sign up to all these places? Sure its ok for family and friends but for business purposes?
4) these places are not private nor professional.
5) Companies and businesses also can join under 1 tel. Some run city directories, hotel directories, bar directories. with telnic search you can find all you need while out and about either in your local city or on vacation without having to go all over the web and fickle search engines that show results based on their ratings.
6) If a main website is down this is a perfect backup for contact info.
7) Some sites contact info is so chaotic and put under certain sections, have a clear contact directory is so much more efficient.
8) Other info can be stored there or a link directing to info. IE: Links to an idividual&#039;s profiles, Facebook, Twitter, Myspace, SteamPowered, EA, Second Life, other game and social profiles, Deviant Art, ArtZone, Elfwood, other places where that person has work examples or portfolio.

All in all? One stop shop and easy way to gather ones info.

Me personally?
All have all my info under a sub domain of a tel and one is a link to my Store on xstreetsl and yes I do get traffic through there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) you have to be a member of facebook, twitter, what have you to get info.<br />
2) these sites have friend caps and yes some people need to go over those.<br />
3)Do you really want to have to sign up to all these places? Sure its ok for family and friends but for business purposes?<br />
4) these places are not private nor professional.<br />
5) Companies and businesses also can join under 1 tel. Some run city directories, hotel directories, bar directories. with telnic search you can find all you need while out and about either in your local city or on vacation without having to go all over the web and fickle search engines that show results based on their ratings.<br />
6) If a main website is down this is a perfect backup for contact info.<br />
7) Some sites contact info is so chaotic and put under certain sections, have a clear contact directory is so much more efficient.<br />
 <img src='http://domainnamewire.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Other info can be stored there or a link directing to info. IE: Links to an idividual&#8217;s profiles, Facebook, Twitter, Myspace, SteamPowered, EA, Second Life, other game and social profiles, Deviant Art, ArtZone, Elfwood, other places where that person has work examples or portfolio.</p>
<p>All in all? One stop shop and easy way to gather ones info.</p>
<p>Me personally?<br />
All have all my info under a sub domain of a tel and one is a link to my Store on xstreetsl and yes I do get traffic through there.</p>
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		<title>By: Telsucks.Info</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/11/10/telnic-a-35-million-investment-gone-awry/comment-page-1/#comment-666162</link>
		<dc:creator>Telsucks.Info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Steam Bunjie,

I am very much convinced that TEL domain is a disaster, and I was speaking on that since 6 months, until TELNIC decided to block me on their public forum, and to remove any complaints from their public support forum on GetSatisfaction.Com.

Now, you have said that last names are a good investment.

You see, in the real world, to offer any investment, one has to have founded facts, statistics, examples, research and to show that investment is really working.

Your calculation looks attractive.

But the final result or final test is: does it work?

So, let me know if there is anyone making money on last names with TEL domains?

Thanks,
Jean Louis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Steam Bunjie,</p>
<p>I am very much convinced that TEL domain is a disaster, and I was speaking on that since 6 months, until TELNIC decided to block me on their public forum, and to remove any complaints from their public support forum on GetSatisfaction.Com.</p>
<p>Now, you have said that last names are a good investment.</p>
<p>You see, in the real world, to offer any investment, one has to have founded facts, statistics, examples, research and to show that investment is really working.</p>
<p>Your calculation looks attractive.</p>
<p>But the final result or final test is: does it work?</p>
<p>So, let me know if there is anyone making money on last names with TEL domains?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Jean Louis</p>
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		<title>By: Steam Bunjie</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/11/10/telnic-a-35-million-investment-gone-awry/comment-page-1/#comment-666130</link>
		<dc:creator>Steam Bunjie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You miss the entire point, anyone who has a brain invests in last names.

Those last names are an absolute gold mine, why? because once someone develops a site to offer the domain owner to put their last name .tel into a pool of last names offered up to an end user at $1+ per profile, the last name owner will pull in more then $1500+ year.

The model is simple and anyone should be able to work it out, if you read above you have people who have cried on the Telnic forums due to being banned for causing mayhem, and not understanding what future .tel has, so they go off trying to destroy things for everyone else. 

It&#039;s baby mentality! Grow up! you invested and invested wrong so stop crying and reinvest correctly.

This is the model it&#039;s a phone book easy to understand?

You buy last names, so you buy aniston.tel

You offer the end user a first name profile, so perhaps her first name is Jennifer we get a first.last.tel page with forwarding email first@last.tel.

So we end up with jennifer.aniston.tel paying $1 a year for a profile, with a forwarding email jennifer@aniston.tel 

Now why would jennifer aniston want and need this? 

Well because lets imagine jennifer.aniston needs to attend events in various online places to promote some new movie, now if she wanted to do some PR event in a virtual world or space or perhaps in a facebook 3D chat it would involve spending massive amounts of money to create her celebrity avatar for xx times the amount of places she needs to visit.

Now if she was given a profile page at jennifer.aniston.tel and we install an avatar that she or her publicist need only 1 passport photo to create the PRO3D avatar which she can take to every compatible 3D facebook event or 3D chat or even a virtual world.

Then it&#039;s worth it to her because she only will ever need to login with her sub profile .tel id.

Telnic can do this by working with DAZ3D.com the world leaders for 3D avatars and avatar content 

And install http://www.digimi.com/newsite/presite/home.jsp full 3D avatars from a single photo.

As for normal end users, everyone will want an avatar and online profile because to be without it means they must constantly remake a new avatar on a per service basis.

Now take a look at Second Life who is working on a 3D embedded version for facebook, and you should imagine that if the end user had a first.last.tel they could use in Second Life and other facebook games just by logging in, then it would make billions for facebook in avatar content through a daz3d multi-branded marketplace.

And FYI .tel is not loosing Steam, if we&#039;re going to play the pun game? let&#039;s play!

Then I must say Hello, I&#039;m Steam known as an in Second Life developer/second life mentor currently working on behalf of DAZ3D&#039;s forum administrator and in-world estate manager on rebuilding DAZ Island.

I know DAZ3D, I know Telnic, and I know Second Life and what&#039;s possible is not impossible to push for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You miss the entire point, anyone who has a brain invests in last names.</p>
<p>Those last names are an absolute gold mine, why? because once someone develops a site to offer the domain owner to put their last name .tel into a pool of last names offered up to an end user at $1+ per profile, the last name owner will pull in more then $1500+ year.</p>
<p>The model is simple and anyone should be able to work it out, if you read above you have people who have cried on the Telnic forums due to being banned for causing mayhem, and not understanding what future .tel has, so they go off trying to destroy things for everyone else. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s baby mentality! Grow up! you invested and invested wrong so stop crying and reinvest correctly.</p>
<p>This is the model it&#8217;s a phone book easy to understand?</p>
<p>You buy last names, so you buy aniston.tel</p>
<p>You offer the end user a first name profile, so perhaps her first name is Jennifer we get a first.last.tel page with forwarding email <a href="mailto:first@last.tel">first@last.tel</a>.</p>
<p>So we end up with jennifer.aniston.tel paying $1 a year for a profile, with a forwarding email <a href="mailto:jennifer@aniston.tel">jennifer@aniston.tel</a> </p>
<p>Now why would jennifer aniston want and need this? </p>
<p>Well because lets imagine jennifer.aniston needs to attend events in various online places to promote some new movie, now if she wanted to do some PR event in a virtual world or space or perhaps in a facebook 3D chat it would involve spending massive amounts of money to create her celebrity avatar for xx times the amount of places she needs to visit.</p>
<p>Now if she was given a profile page at jennifer.aniston.tel and we install an avatar that she or her publicist need only 1 passport photo to create the PRO3D avatar which she can take to every compatible 3D facebook event or 3D chat or even a virtual world.</p>
<p>Then it&#8217;s worth it to her because she only will ever need to login with her sub profile .tel id.</p>
<p>Telnic can do this by working with DAZ3D.com the world leaders for 3D avatars and avatar content </p>
<p>And install <a href="http://www.digimi.com/newsite/presite/home.jsp" rel="nofollow">http://www.digimi.com/newsite/presite/home.jsp</a> full 3D avatars from a single photo.</p>
<p>As for normal end users, everyone will want an avatar and online profile because to be without it means they must constantly remake a new avatar on a per service basis.</p>
<p>Now take a look at Second Life who is working on a 3D embedded version for facebook, and you should imagine that if the end user had a first.last.tel they could use in Second Life and other facebook games just by logging in, then it would make billions for facebook in avatar content through a daz3d multi-branded marketplace.</p>
<p>And FYI .tel is not loosing Steam, if we&#8217;re going to play the pun game? let&#8217;s play!</p>
<p>Then I must say Hello, I&#8217;m Steam known as an in Second Life developer/second life mentor currently working on behalf of DAZ3D&#8217;s forum administrator and in-world estate manager on rebuilding DAZ Island.</p>
<p>I know DAZ3D, I know Telnic, and I know Second Life and what&#8217;s possible is not impossible to push for.</p>
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		<title>By: Telsucks.Info</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/11/10/telnic-a-35-million-investment-gone-awry/comment-page-1/#comment-640872</link>
		<dc:creator>Telsucks.Info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ron

You said:
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Take this scenario for example. It is the year 2015 and I am in my car trying to find the telephone number to my friend. Accessing his easy to remember .TEL is quicker than accessing a webpage and looking for the â€˜Contact Usâ€™ page.

But that is completely wrong. If it is your friend, his phone number will be in your mobile phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ron</p>
<p>You said:<br />
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Take this scenario for example. It is the year 2015 and I am in my car trying to find the telephone number to my friend. Accessing his easy to remember .TEL is quicker than accessing a webpage and looking for the â€˜Contact Usâ€™ page.</p>
<p>But that is completely wrong. If it is your friend, his phone number will be in your mobile phone.</p>
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		<title>By: .tel owner</title>
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		<dc:creator>.tel owner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 09:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Telnic is a group of Techies in desperate need of sales and marketing professionals before they even have a chance at real success.

First guy they need to dump is the useless Henri, a CTO they have flying around the planet acting as their number one sales professionalâ€¦itâ€™s NOT WORKING.

The need to face it, the domain is losing steam and the promise of a new way to communicate did not resonate. Better shift gears quick or prepare to wind up on the trash heap of domains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Telnic is a group of Techies in desperate need of sales and marketing professionals before they even have a chance at real success.</p>
<p>First guy they need to dump is the useless Henri, a CTO they have flying around the planet acting as their number one sales professionalâ€¦itâ€™s NOT WORKING.</p>
<p>The need to face it, the domain is losing steam and the promise of a new way to communicate did not resonate. Better shift gears quick or prepare to wind up on the trash heap of domains.</p>
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		<title>By: The Official .TEL Discussion Thread - Page 185 - NamePros.Com</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Official .TEL Discussion Thread - Page 185 - NamePros.Com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 17:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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