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	<title>Comments on: World2Work Releases Statement About Fired.com UDRP Case</title>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/07/25/world2work-releases-statement-about-firedcom-udrp-case/comment-page-1/#comment-197322</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ken and Enrico for your input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ken and Enrico for your input.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/07/25/world2work-releases-statement-about-firedcom-udrp-case/comment-page-1/#comment-197317</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When looking at the &quot;Fired&quot; trademark (reg. number 3269038), it appears that the registrant had some of their own issues early in the application. The examining attorney felt that there was confusion with Donald Trump&#039;s well known usage of the term. The registrant was able to cure this in later submissions towards the application.

It&#039;s obvious that World2Work is overreaching, but they believe they are making a good faith claim. Yet, there are two major flaws in their argument. First, simply registering a domain and not using it is NOT a valid argument towards bad faith; this has been shown in previous UDRP decisions. Second is the fact that Fired.com was registered long before the plaintiff&#039;s claimed usage of &quot;Fired&quot;. 

What&#039;s interesting here is that Trump would have the best claim against Fired.com. Archive.org has saved screen shots of the original parking page from 2007 that shows competing ads for Trumps Apprentice show. This, in itself, could be used as a claim of confusion with the &quot;You&#039;re Fired&quot; marks from the show which are owned by JMBP, Inc..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When looking at the &#8220;Fired&#8221; trademark (reg. number 3269038), it appears that the registrant had some of their own issues early in the application. The examining attorney felt that there was confusion with Donald Trump&#8217;s well known usage of the term. The registrant was able to cure this in later submissions towards the application.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s obvious that World2Work is overreaching, but they believe they are making a good faith claim. Yet, there are two major flaws in their argument. First, simply registering a domain and not using it is NOT a valid argument towards bad faith; this has been shown in previous UDRP decisions. Second is the fact that Fired.com was registered long before the plaintiff&#8217;s claimed usage of &#8220;Fired&#8221;. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s interesting here is that Trump would have the best claim against Fired.com. Archive.org has saved screen shots of the original parking page from 2007 that shows competing ads for Trumps Apprentice show. This, in itself, could be used as a claim of confusion with the &#8220;You&#8217;re Fired&#8221; marks from the show which are owned by JMBP, Inc..</p>
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		<title>By: Enrico S.</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/07/25/world2work-releases-statement-about-firedcom-udrp-case/comment-page-1/#comment-197314</link>
		<dc:creator>Enrico S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank is right.  Monitoring trademark flings and getting oppositions in place during the 30 day objection period is the easiest way to kill a trademark.  

These guys are a page rank 3. It is hard to imagine they have much traffic.  

Kurt has had the domain since at least 2001. Complainant&#039;s first use in commerce is 2004, well after Kurt purchased the domain.  He should win on this basis alone and obtain a reverse hijacking decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank is right.  Monitoring trademark flings and getting oppositions in place during the 30 day objection period is the easiest way to kill a trademark.  </p>
<p>These guys are a page rank 3. It is hard to imagine they have much traffic.  </p>
<p>Kurt has had the domain since at least 2001. Complainant&#8217;s first use in commerce is 2004, well after Kurt purchased the domain.  He should win on this basis alone and obtain a reverse hijacking decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/07/25/world2work-releases-statement-about-firedcom-udrp-case/comment-page-1/#comment-197312</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...I believe trademarks have been canceled after a UDRP lit the fire under someone.&quot;

UDRP cases are not referenced when making a claim against a Federal trademark; unless the UDRP case itself made references to Federal cases in their decision. Still, a Federal lawsuit would need to be brought against the trademark owner in order to cancel the mark. Only a Federal judge has the power to cancel a mark once it has been granted.

Here, the best opportunity and least expensive route would have been to file a letter of protest when the mark &quot;Fired&quot; was original published for opposition. Once a mark is granted it&#039;s much more difficult to get a trademark canceled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;I believe trademarks have been canceled after a UDRP lit the fire under someone.&#8221;</p>
<p>UDRP cases are not referenced when making a claim against a Federal trademark; unless the UDRP case itself made references to Federal cases in their decision. Still, a Federal lawsuit would need to be brought against the trademark owner in order to cancel the mark. Only a Federal judge has the power to cancel a mark once it has been granted.</p>
<p>Here, the best opportunity and least expensive route would have been to file a letter of protest when the mark &#8220;Fired&#8221; was original published for opposition. Once a mark is granted it&#8217;s much more difficult to get a trademark canceled.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/07/25/world2work-releases-statement-about-firedcom-udrp-case/comment-page-1/#comment-197299</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...Sue the SOB’s for attorneys fees and damages for wasted time...&quot;

In business v. business state or Federal court, attorneys fees and damages are not guaranteed if you win. You need to show a willful malicious intent by the other party to to deceive or abuse the system. In reality, that is a high hurdle to clear; especially if the other party can show a legal precedent for their argument. That goes a long way towards a good faith claim.

In this case the plaintiff has their own high hurdles to overcome. This is why they are going the route of UDRP first, it&#039;s less costly to them than Federal court which would cost 50-100k at a minimum with no guarantees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Sue the SOB’s for attorneys fees and damages for wasted time&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>In business v. business state or Federal court, attorneys fees and damages are not guaranteed if you win. You need to show a willful malicious intent by the other party to to deceive or abuse the system. In reality, that is a high hurdle to clear; especially if the other party can show a legal precedent for their argument. That goes a long way towards a good faith claim.</p>
<p>In this case the plaintiff has their own high hurdles to overcome. This is why they are going the route of UDRP first, it&#8217;s less costly to them than Federal court which would cost 50-100k at a minimum with no guarantees.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/07/25/world2work-releases-statement-about-firedcom-udrp-case/comment-page-1/#comment-197284</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, that works if you have the $$ to spend.  LH.com is going to cost Lufthansa much more than the few grand it cost to file the UDRP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, that works if you have the $$ to spend.  LH.com is going to cost Lufthansa much more than the few grand it cost to file the UDRP.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/07/25/world2work-releases-statement-about-firedcom-udrp-case/comment-page-1/#comment-197282</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, good point.  Perhaps a domain lawyer can hop in on this, but I believe trademarks have been canceled after a UDRP lit the fire under someone.

Another note: when filing or responding to a UDRP, always use a lawyer that specializes in domain name law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, good point.  Perhaps a domain lawyer can hop in on this, but I believe trademarks have been canceled after a UDRP lit the fire under someone.</p>
<p>Another note: when filing or responding to a UDRP, always use a lawyer that specializes in domain name law.</p>
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