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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/07/21/one-web-vision-suggests-mobi-is-a-short-term-fix/comment-page-2/#comment-227002</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realised that Andrew but the day to day practicalities &amp; logic of using dotmobi are a separate entity entirely to the speculative side of the domain industry.. let&#039;s be honest, most small to medium businesses acquire their main url by registering it themselves, even beyond that most sales in the aftermarket are low-ball.. it&#039;s only an elite group that trade in the many 10&#039;s of $1,000&#039;s... even in dotcoms..

So ignoring the speculation - I find very little not to like about dotmobi... all the arguments are by people who argue that you don&#039;t NEED dotmobi &amp; then continue to fight as if just for the sake of fighting against using it.. when the truth is that using a dotmobi has zero down-side and an unknown upside; when the stakes are this one sided and the budgets so low, I can&#039;t understand why anyone would bother to argue against it... any consultant employed to tackle this question is going to charge more for an hours pontificating the question than an entire years costs of adding dotmobi to your site access &#039;choices&#039;
Seems kind of dumb to waste the money on the consultant in such a trivial way when there&#039;s so much work to be done delivering the right content to mobiles... 

The iphone needs mobile apps the same way that my HTC does.. it is not a coincidence that the dotmobi compliance is exactly what mobile sites should be like regardless of dotmobi or not... ready.mobi  / device Atlas  dev.mobi  all very well thought out resources for the mobilenet.. if anyones that stubborn just build a site that scores 4/5 to 5/5 on ready.mobi &amp; stick it on a dotcom &amp; call it www.whatsitandmacwhirterandsons.com/mobile if you must but at least get the site scoring 4/5 or 5/5 because that&#039;s what matters.. 

I&#039;m seeing a robust trade in aftermarket names right now.. the prices have hit a bottom but volumes are most definitely picking up..   

I&#039;m looking forward to the next 12months..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realised that Andrew but the day to day practicalities &amp; logic of using dotmobi are a separate entity entirely to the speculative side of the domain industry.. let&#8217;s be honest, most small to medium businesses acquire their main url by registering it themselves, even beyond that most sales in the aftermarket are low-ball.. it&#8217;s only an elite group that trade in the many 10&#8217;s of $1,000&#8217;s&#8230; even in dotcoms..</p>
<p>So ignoring the speculation &#8211; I find very little not to like about dotmobi&#8230; all the arguments are by people who argue that you don&#8217;t NEED dotmobi &amp; then continue to fight as if just for the sake of fighting against using it.. when the truth is that using a dotmobi has zero down-side and an unknown upside; when the stakes are this one sided and the budgets so low, I can&#8217;t understand why anyone would bother to argue against it&#8230; any consultant employed to tackle this question is going to charge more for an hours pontificating the question than an entire years costs of adding dotmobi to your site access &#8216;choices&#8217;<br />
Seems kind of dumb to waste the money on the consultant in such a trivial way when there&#8217;s so much work to be done delivering the right content to mobiles&#8230; </p>
<p>The iphone needs mobile apps the same way that my HTC does.. it is not a coincidence that the dotmobi compliance is exactly what mobile sites should be like regardless of dotmobi or not&#8230; ready.mobi  / device Atlas  dev.mobi  all very well thought out resources for the mobilenet.. if anyones that stubborn just build a site that scores 4/5 to 5/5 on ready.mobi &amp; stick it on a dotcom &amp; call it <a href="http://www.whatsitandmacwhirterandsons.com/mobile" rel="nofollow">http://www.whatsitandmacwhirterandsons.com/mobile</a> if you must but at least get the site scoring 4/5 or 5/5 because that&#8217;s what matters.. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m seeing a robust trade in aftermarket names right now.. the prices have hit a bottom but volumes are most definitely picking up..   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to the next 12months..</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/07/21/one-web-vision-suggests-mobi-is-a-short-term-fix/comment-page-2/#comment-226822</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary, I was responding to  your $50 comment.

But yes, we don&#039;t know how this will end.  It&#039;s speculative, but perhaps the speculators will be rewarded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary, I was responding to  your $50 comment.</p>
<p>But yes, we don&#8217;t know how this will end.  It&#8217;s speculative, but perhaps the speculators will be rewarded.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, 

You are somewhat misguided if you think that those with $20,000 invested in dotmobi are being &#039;hoodwinked&#039; into backing the extension.. 
It is not an investment for widows and orphans but the again Andrew there are $Billions traded each and every day... so $20,000 to us is (I assume) a lot of money whereas to some players it&#039;s literally &#039;fun money&#039;
Dotmobi is at the beginning of it&#039;s life cycle... by number (not necessarily duration) the majority of web visits will be made from a mobile device within 5 to 10 years (in Japan this is already true).

Dotmobi makes sense, countrycodes make sense and dotcom makes sense... .org has been bastardised by too many &#039;non organisations&#039; using them (but it still makes sense)...  dotnet makes sense (as 2nd fiddle to dotcom) and dotinfo? what&#039;s that all about??? what is the internet if not a resource of information?

Dotmobi is affordable for those needing a mobile web presence... reg fee plus renewals.. it makes total sense.
Aftermarket? who knows if $5,000 for a name is way under or way over &#039;true&#039; value?

Time will tell... but I&#039;ll agree on one thing with you..You &amp; I may not see it the same way but neither of us knows how it will end?
There could well be some very wealthy investors in 5 years time... or there could be investment write-downs / write-offs but in a climate where you can&#039;t even trust bricks and mortar as a guarenteed investment, I&#039;m happy to speculate with a % of my assets being in dotmobi domains..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, </p>
<p>You are somewhat misguided if you think that those with $20,000 invested in dotmobi are being &#8216;hoodwinked&#8217; into backing the extension..<br />
It is not an investment for widows and orphans but the again Andrew there are $Billions traded each and every day&#8230; so $20,000 to us is (I assume) a lot of money whereas to some players it&#8217;s literally &#8216;fun money&#8217;<br />
Dotmobi is at the beginning of it&#8217;s life cycle&#8230; by number (not necessarily duration) the majority of web visits will be made from a mobile device within 5 to 10 years (in Japan this is already true).</p>
<p>Dotmobi makes sense, countrycodes make sense and dotcom makes sense&#8230; .org has been bastardised by too many &#8216;non organisations&#8217; using them (but it still makes sense)&#8230;  dotnet makes sense (as 2nd fiddle to dotcom) and dotinfo? what&#8217;s that all about??? what is the internet if not a resource of information?</p>
<p>Dotmobi is affordable for those needing a mobile web presence&#8230; reg fee plus renewals.. it makes total sense.<br />
Aftermarket? who knows if $5,000 for a name is way under or way over &#8216;true&#8217; value?</p>
<p>Time will tell&#8230; but I&#8217;ll agree on one thing with you..You &amp; I may not see it the same way but neither of us knows how it will end?<br />
There could well be some very wealthy investors in 5 years time&#8230; or there could be investment write-downs / write-offs but in a climate where you can&#8217;t even trust bricks and mortar as a guarenteed investment, I&#8217;m happy to speculate with a % of my assets being in dotmobi domains..</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/07/21/one-web-vision-suggests-mobi-is-a-short-term-fix/comment-page-2/#comment-226689</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary, I don&#039;t think anyone would advise against paying $10 or so to get your .mobi.  But people are paying $10k, $20k, and more to speculate on .mobi domain names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary, I don&#8217;t think anyone would advise against paying $10 or so to get your .mobi.  But people are paying $10k, $20k, and more to speculate on .mobi domain names.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/07/21/one-web-vision-suggests-mobi-is-a-short-term-fix/comment-page-2/#comment-226550</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s assume for one moment that all arguments for dotmobi are invalidated 100%
(although that is far from my belief)

Let&#039;s assume that those who adopt dotmobi do so for purely cosmetic / aesthetic reasons...

Let&#039;s assume that an unspecified percentage of mobile users will type in dotmobi address &#039;on spec&#039;

Let&#039;s ask ourselves a question... if we have mobile compliant content (which I think we can all agree IS going to happen anyway)
The only question is this;

Would I choose not to spend $50 a year on having a dotmobi to use at the very least as part of a &#039;catch all&#039; strategy?
Traffic isn&#039;t cheap &amp; isn&#039;t easy... if 5 percent or 75% of mobile traffic comes via dotmobi - wouldn&#039;t you spend $50 a year to capture that traffic?

And that argument isn&#039;t as vacuous as say; using the same argument for utilising a dotbiz extension to &#039;catch&#039; random traffic.. I truly believe that dotmobi will be an essential part of accessing the mobilenet - it is not a &#039;dead in the water&#039; extension like dotbiz etc..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s assume for one moment that all arguments for dotmobi are invalidated 100%<br />
(although that is far from my belief)</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s assume that those who adopt dotmobi do so for purely cosmetic / aesthetic reasons&#8230;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s assume that an unspecified percentage of mobile users will type in dotmobi address &#8216;on spec&#8217;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s ask ourselves a question&#8230; if we have mobile compliant content (which I think we can all agree IS going to happen anyway)<br />
The only question is this;</p>
<p>Would I choose not to spend $50 a year on having a dotmobi to use at the very least as part of a &#8216;catch all&#8217; strategy?<br />
Traffic isn&#8217;t cheap &amp; isn&#8217;t easy&#8230; if 5 percent or 75% of mobile traffic comes via dotmobi &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t you spend $50 a year to capture that traffic?</p>
<p>And that argument isn&#8217;t as vacuous as say; using the same argument for utilising a dotbiz extension to &#8216;catch&#8217; random traffic.. I truly believe that dotmobi will be an essential part of accessing the mobilenet &#8211; it is not a &#8216;dead in the water&#8217; extension like dotbiz etc..</p>
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		<title>By: blither</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/07/21/one-web-vision-suggests-mobi-is-a-short-term-fix/comment-page-2/#comment-226385</link>
		<dc:creator>blither</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.mobi and the discussion of it is directly connected to the internet divide. Spend an hour on google insights for search and see vast parts of humanity not even exist on a globe.Talking about the reign of .com has the smugness of talking about how Bismark carved Africa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.mobi and the discussion of it is directly connected to the internet divide. Spend an hour on google insights for search and see vast parts of humanity not even exist on a globe.Talking about the reign of .com has the smugness of talking about how Bismark carved Africa</p>
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		<title>By: Mobile SEO &#124; Is .mobi in the &#8216;last throes&#8217;? - Mobile SEO</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/07/21/one-web-vision-suggests-mobi-is-a-short-term-fix/comment-page-2/#comment-214797</link>
		<dc:creator>Mobile SEO &#124; Is .mobi in the &#8216;last throes&#8217;? - Mobile SEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my budget prevented my attendance at the meeting, however, an interview with Cindy Krum by Andrew published at Domain Name Wire,  gives us a pretty good idea of the meat of session. Krum [...]</description>
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<p>[...] my budget prevented my attendance at the meeting, however, an interview with Cindy Krum by Andrew published at Domain Name Wire,  gives us a pretty good idea of the meat of session. Krum [...]</p>
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