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		<title>By: Buddy</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/04/25/survey-domain-owners-predict-increased-values/comment-page-1/#comment-287855</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 23:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious if you are still optimistic on domain values.  I have a few that I have been holding onto that I am thinking of getting rid of to focus on other things like yankeesblog.com and wondering if now is a good time.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious if you are still optimistic on domain values.  I have a few that I have been holding onto that I am thinking of getting rid of to focus on other things like yankeesblog.com and wondering if now is a good time.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Douglas</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/04/25/survey-domain-owners-predict-increased-values/comment-page-1/#comment-171011</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Antoinette:

I&#039;ve appraised domains professionally for 4 years or more, and I always follow a simple rule... appraise at a value that the seller should NOT sell below, as opposed to the &quot;HIGH&quot; value of the domain the seller should expect. 

This is because no person can accurately state the highest possible selling price of ANY domain.  So if a domain can make $100,000 if the right buyer came along, but the domain has a &quot;liquidable&quot; value (selling it fast) of $35,000, then the appraisal value at &quot;liquidable&quot; pricing would be the latter price. It wouldn&#039;t (or shouldn&#039;t) make the seller upset if they paid registration price for the domain, or even $20,000 for the same domain a few years earlier, because the success of a domain sale is that you make an &quot;expected appropriate&quot; profit for the domain, that you used all professional avenues in offering your domain for sale, and that hopefully you have more than one bidder.

If you&#039;d like to contact me at successclick.com to discuss this further, I&#039;ll be happy to help you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Antoinette:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve appraised domains professionally for 4 years or more, and I always follow a simple rule&#8230; appraise at a value that the seller should NOT sell below, as opposed to the &#8220;HIGH&#8221; value of the domain the seller should expect. </p>
<p>This is because no person can accurately state the highest possible selling price of ANY domain.  So if a domain can make $100,000 if the right buyer came along, but the domain has a &#8220;liquidable&#8221; value (selling it fast) of $35,000, then the appraisal value at &#8220;liquidable&#8221; pricing would be the latter price. It wouldn&#8217;t (or shouldn&#8217;t) make the seller upset if they paid registration price for the domain, or even $20,000 for the same domain a few years earlier, because the success of a domain sale is that you make an &#8220;expected appropriate&#8221; profit for the domain, that you used all professional avenues in offering your domain for sale, and that hopefully you have more than one bidder.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to contact me at successclick.com to discuss this further, I&#8217;ll be happy to help you.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Antoinette - I wouldn&#039;t worry too much about that...if the domain is generic in nature and the company doesn&#039;t have any brand names similar to it, I doubt you&#039;ll get that response.

On valuation, that&#039;s an age old questions that&#039;d difficult to answer.  Was iReport.com worth $750k?  Few people would have said so before CNN bought it for that much.  I believed it **had** to have that specific domain.  In general, when companies have options they also have negotiating power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Antoinette &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t worry too much about that&#8230;if the domain is generic in nature and the company doesn&#8217;t have any brand names similar to it, I doubt you&#8217;ll get that response.</p>
<p>On valuation, that&#8217;s an age old questions that&#8217;d difficult to answer.  Was iReport.com worth $750k?  Few people would have said so before CNN bought it for that much.  I believed it **had** to have that specific domain.  In general, when companies have options they also have negotiating power.</p>
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		<title>By: Antoinette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antoinette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all very interesting. Most of my domains would only be of interest to end users but it is such a crapshoot. I feel like if I approach them, it&#039;ll seem like cybersquatting even if trademark is not attached to the specific name. But I think most of them would be dynamite names for the right company.

My other question is valuation. If the domain really is only of use or value to a couple of companies in an industry, how do you assign a monetary value to it? From what point can you bargain when there is just one interested buyer?

I&#039;ve heard such mixed (mostly negative) comments about appraisal services I&#039;m reluctant to pay for a service that might give me a figure below an outstanding offer or so high that it intimidates a potential buyer. It is really more of an art than a science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all very interesting. Most of my domains would only be of interest to end users but it is such a crapshoot. I feel like if I approach them, it&#8217;ll seem like cybersquatting even if trademark is not attached to the specific name. But I think most of them would be dynamite names for the right company.</p>
<p>My other question is valuation. If the domain really is only of use or value to a couple of companies in an industry, how do you assign a monetary value to it? From what point can you bargain when there is just one interested buyer?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard such mixed (mostly negative) comments about appraisal services I&#8217;m reluctant to pay for a service that might give me a figure below an outstanding offer or so high that it intimidates a potential buyer. It is really more of an art than a science.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schneider</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/04/25/survey-domain-owners-predict-increased-values/comment-page-1/#comment-170805</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,
Thanks for pointing this concept out. It tells all of us that advertisers are finally realizing the keyword domain name channel is valuable. We should start seeing an appreciable increase in keyword domain names values over the next few years. 

I predict that a lot of keyword domains will sell for no less than 10 million $ us, over the next few years. Most good keyword domains are rediculously undervalued from a strategic stand point. Thanks again for the concept. Jeff Schneider</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,<br />
Thanks for pointing this concept out. It tells all of us that advertisers are finally realizing the keyword domain name channel is valuable. We should start seeing an appreciable increase in keyword domain names values over the next few years. </p>
<p>I predict that a lot of keyword domains will sell for no less than 10 million $ us, over the next few years. Most good keyword domains are rediculously undervalued from a strategic stand point. Thanks again for the concept. Jeff Schneider</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Douglas</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/04/25/survey-domain-owners-predict-increased-values/comment-page-1/#comment-170748</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David&#039;s assessment was spot on, regardless of the current state of &quot;incestuous&quot;  sales between domainers, the real market for domains is, and always has been, the END USER.

Until we domainers start pumping promotions and marketing into this area, doing everything we can to show the value of our domains to the companies that will build them out or use them to brand their current products/services, we&#039;ll always be scratching our heads, and talking about domain values &quot;will they go up or down this year&quot;. 

They&#039;ll go UP if we do like David does and promotes to end users. Period.

Nice article, Andrew.

http://www.successclick.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David&#8217;s assessment was spot on, regardless of the current state of &#8220;incestuous&#8221;  sales between domainers, the real market for domains is, and always has been, the END USER.</p>
<p>Until we domainers start pumping promotions and marketing into this area, doing everything we can to show the value of our domains to the companies that will build them out or use them to brand their current products/services, we&#8217;ll always be scratching our heads, and talking about domain values &#8220;will they go up or down this year&#8221;. </p>
<p>They&#8217;ll go UP if we do like David does and promotes to end users. Period.</p>
<p>Nice article, Andrew.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.successclick.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.successclick.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve M</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2008/04/25/survey-domain-owners-predict-increased-values/comment-page-1/#comment-170605</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Accurate assessments, David.

Another example: A couple years back, some &quot;top&quot; domainers laughed at my Healthify ... yet last month General Mills happily grabbed it for $15,000.

Oops.

...and how much would any of us have said iReport.com was worth; tops? (1k? 5k? maybe 25k?) ... yet Rick was able to negotiate a sale for 750k.

Monster double oops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Accurate assessments, David.</p>
<p>Another example: A couple years back, some &#8220;top&#8221; domainers laughed at my Healthify &#8230; yet last month General Mills happily grabbed it for $15,000.</p>
<p>Oops.</p>
<p>&#8230;and how much would any of us have said iReport.com was worth; tops? (1k? 5k? maybe 25k?) &#8230; yet Rick was able to negotiate a sale for 750k.</p>
<p>Monster double oops.</p>
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