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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2007/08/03/why-is-there-no-transparency-for-domain-parking-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-88252</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnny, 

First, sorry for the late response.  Your comment landed in my spam filter.

Your theory has merit, although I still point to the trademark issue as a plausible reason.

I also have one hole to poke in your &quot;fewer steps&quot; with parked domains comments.  The parked domains only show ads, not organic listings.  Often times ads are more targeted, but many times organic listings are (especially for long tail queries).  Back in the days of GoTo, which was only paid listings, I would search its engine when I was trying to buy something.  If I was just searching for something I would use another search engine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnny, </p>
<p>First, sorry for the late response.  Your comment landed in my spam filter.</p>
<p>Your theory has merit, although I still point to the trademark issue as a plausible reason.</p>
<p>I also have one hole to poke in your &#8220;fewer steps&#8221; with parked domains comments.  The parked domains only show ads, not organic listings.  Often times ads are more targeted, but many times organic listings are (especially for long tail queries).  Back in the days of GoTo, which was only paid listings, I would search its engine when I was trying to buy something.  If I was just searching for something I would use another search engine.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny B. Good</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny B. Good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 04:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Andrew,

I have been thinking for quite some time about what all this shadowy business is about with Google and Yahoo. It&#039;s being done for a reason, most likely sinister, and I can&#039;t get that notion out of my head.

If domains do convert better and the advertisers come to know this one day, they will by evolution in the marketplace, gravitate to the medium that is most fluid and aligned with the domain market, which currently is not Google or Yahoo since they have secretly kept our payout mathematics hidden.  Thus Sendori or some other monetization scheme could steal some domain thunder if this is the case - especially if Google and Yahoo don&#039;t wise up.  Payouts for domainers could be much, much higher working more closely with the advertisers.

If the domains convert WORSE than regular search, and, say, Yahoo stopped syndicating ads to domains, then conceiveably Yahoo Search could convert better than the big Google &quot;search umbrella&quot;, giving them a &quot;Higher Conversion&quot; reputation and an advantage over Google. I don&#039;t see domains as a whole converting worse, or domainers would have been marginalized some time back to FindWhat or something down the totem pole.

Also, if direct navigation is truely growing as implied by the behemoth domain companies, then direct navigation could become more popular than using a search engine.  It&#039;s logical. It cuts out steps in the search process, and let&#039;s face it people are lazy, and that is also one reasion why short domains are popular:

Search Example:

Parked Domains
1. Type in Parked Domain Name &gt; Click on Ad Link &gt; Search Site.  Three Steps Total.

Search Engines
2. Type in Favorite Search Engine &gt; Type Terms in Search Query Box &gt; Click Search &gt; Click on Ad or Organic Link &gt; Search Site. Five steps total.

The generic domains are like going to the library and using and index card to find what you want. Search engines are really not even necessary.  I also can totally see organic listings on many parked domains one day that have increased traffic because of the organic listings, and other enhancements, thus meaning higher revenues.  Maybe a network where many domainers are a member and the public comes to trust the seal of quality on the sites.

I see Google and Yahoo becoming relegated to servicing domainers like the current domain parking companies are doing right now, but maybe with a bit more ingenuity extended to the domains, like Google Earth, Email, Maps, Personals, etc... all managed by them for you and I. If they don&#039;t do it, someone else will for us :)

These problems, and much more regarding domains, are what I believe Google is scared of.  How does Google tackle this if they are already king of the hill? This is how: You keep everyone in the dark as long as possible and you ride that gravy train until figure out a solution to that pesty little problem of the growing legions of domainers. Wait until there are one million domainers and half a billion parked domains, what then? Who&#039;s stronger Google or the Domainers? If we can remove the traffic we can control the destiny, and Google then takes a back seat.  The battle then begins, and thus the first real chapter of our saga!!! Stay tuned.....

Sorry I got a little excited and a little off the deep end in domain pondering!  :)

Johnny B. Good</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Andrew,</p>
<p>I have been thinking for quite some time about what all this shadowy business is about with Google and Yahoo. It&#8217;s being done for a reason, most likely sinister, and I can&#8217;t get that notion out of my head.</p>
<p>If domains do convert better and the advertisers come to know this one day, they will by evolution in the marketplace, gravitate to the medium that is most fluid and aligned with the domain market, which currently is not Google or Yahoo since they have secretly kept our payout mathematics hidden.  Thus Sendori or some other monetization scheme could steal some domain thunder if this is the case &#8211; especially if Google and Yahoo don&#8217;t wise up.  Payouts for domainers could be much, much higher working more closely with the advertisers.</p>
<p>If the domains convert WORSE than regular search, and, say, Yahoo stopped syndicating ads to domains, then conceiveably Yahoo Search could convert better than the big Google &#8220;search umbrella&#8221;, giving them a &#8220;Higher Conversion&#8221; reputation and an advantage over Google. I don&#8217;t see domains as a whole converting worse, or domainers would have been marginalized some time back to FindWhat or something down the totem pole.</p>
<p>Also, if direct navigation is truely growing as implied by the behemoth domain companies, then direct navigation could become more popular than using a search engine.  It&#8217;s logical. It cuts out steps in the search process, and let&#8217;s face it people are lazy, and that is also one reasion why short domains are popular:</p>
<p>Search Example:</p>
<p>Parked Domains<br />
1. Type in Parked Domain Name &gt; Click on Ad Link &gt; Search Site.  Three Steps Total.</p>
<p>Search Engines<br />
2. Type in Favorite Search Engine &gt; Type Terms in Search Query Box &gt; Click Search &gt; Click on Ad or Organic Link &gt; Search Site. Five steps total.</p>
<p>The generic domains are like going to the library and using and index card to find what you want. Search engines are really not even necessary.  I also can totally see organic listings on many parked domains one day that have increased traffic because of the organic listings, and other enhancements, thus meaning higher revenues.  Maybe a network where many domainers are a member and the public comes to trust the seal of quality on the sites.</p>
<p>I see Google and Yahoo becoming relegated to servicing domainers like the current domain parking companies are doing right now, but maybe with a bit more ingenuity extended to the domains, like Google Earth, Email, Maps, Personals, etc&#8230; all managed by them for you and I. If they don&#8217;t do it, someone else will for us <img src='http://domainnamewire.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>These problems, and much more regarding domains, are what I believe Google is scared of.  How does Google tackle this if they are already king of the hill? This is how: You keep everyone in the dark as long as possible and you ride that gravy train until figure out a solution to that pesty little problem of the growing legions of domainers. Wait until there are one million domainers and half a billion parked domains, what then? Who&#8217;s stronger Google or the Domainers? If we can remove the traffic we can control the destiny, and Google then takes a back seat.  The battle then begins, and thus the first real chapter of our saga!!! Stay tuned&#8230;..</p>
<p>Sorry I got a little excited and a little off the deep end in domain pondering!  <img src='http://domainnamewire.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Johnny B. Good</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...if domain ads convert that well, then I think Google would pump that up because it has so much of the PPC market for domain names.  If it goes after more of the parked domains and shows they convert well it will earn more money.

One thing I don&#039;t buy is that paid parking sites somehow ad more value to the user than a Google results page with organic and paid results.  If that were the case, Google would only show ads.  That may result in better conversions for advertisers, but a worse experience for searchers...resulting in people leaving Google altogether.  If organic listings didn&#039;t matter to the user then Google wouldn&#039;t be #1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;if domain ads convert that well, then I think Google would pump that up because it has so much of the PPC market for domain names.  If it goes after more of the parked domains and shows they convert well it will earn more money.</p>
<p>One thing I don&#8217;t buy is that paid parking sites somehow ad more value to the user than a Google results page with organic and paid results.  If that were the case, Google would only show ads.  That may result in better conversions for advertisers, but a worse experience for searchers&#8230;resulting in people leaving Google altogether.  If organic listings didn&#8217;t matter to the user then Google wouldn&#8217;t be #1.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny B. Good</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny B. Good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 00:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points!

I think Google may not be breaking out the parked domains for two other reasons as well:
 
1. If the advertisers are able to zone in on particular parked sites and cut out 25% of the sites that are probably really just junky, non-converting sites, then that percentage of the parking gravy train is over for Google. Why not ride it out until the dam is ready to break, and then announce better tracking?
2. Domains probably convert better and Google is scared of this - it could lead to a mass exodus to something like Sendori, etc..., thus crushing the Google stock price. Also, relating to point #1, if the junky, non-converting sites are eliminated from the mix then Google&#039;s grouped &quot;Domain Ads&quot; category&#039;s conversion rate may go though the roof, thus showing the advertisers that the real &quot;gold&quot; is in the cream-of-the-crop parked domains and not necessarily Google.

Johnny B. Good</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points!</p>
<p>I think Google may not be breaking out the parked domains for two other reasons as well:</p>
<p>1. If the advertisers are able to zone in on particular parked sites and cut out 25% of the sites that are probably really just junky, non-converting sites, then that percentage of the parking gravy train is over for Google. Why not ride it out until the dam is ready to break, and then announce better tracking?<br />
2. Domains probably convert better and Google is scared of this &#8211; it could lead to a mass exodus to something like Sendori, etc&#8230;, thus crushing the Google stock price. Also, relating to point #1, if the junky, non-converting sites are eliminated from the mix then Google&#8217;s grouped &#8220;Domain Ads&#8221; category&#8217;s conversion rate may go though the roof, thus showing the advertisers that the real &#8220;gold&#8221; is in the cream-of-the-crop parked domains and not necessarily Google.</p>
<p>Johnny B. Good</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 02:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the program I use:

http://tinyurl.com/yoybu3

It&#039;s not perfect, but it gives you a lot better data than you get from Google</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the program I use:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/yoybu3" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yoybu3</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not perfect, but it gives you a lot better data than you get from Google</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, you bring up a great point here. What is the name of the &quot;seperate program&quot; you use to find out exactly where your clicks came from??? It seems like that would be so helpful in weeding out the click fraud sites.
Thanks,
Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, you bring up a great point here. What is the name of the &#8220;seperate program&#8221; you use to find out exactly where your clicks came from??? It seems like that would be so helpful in weeding out the click fraud sites.<br />
Thanks,<br />
Kevin</p>
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