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	<title>Comments on: Domain name reassignment foils Google</title>
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		<title>By: Domain Name Wire &#187; News &#187; 5 Ways To Use DomainTools - The Domain Industry's News Source</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2006/07/14/domain-name-reassignment-foils-google/comment-page-1/#comment-159878</link>
		<dc:creator>Domain Name Wire &#187; News &#187; 5 Ways To Use DomainTools - The Domain Industry's News Source</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] use it to weed out domains that have changed ownership? After all, that&#8217;s one of the reasons Google became a domain registrar in the first [...]</description>
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<p>[...] use it to weed out domains that have changed ownership? After all, that&#8217;s one of the reasons Google became a domain registrar in the first [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Domainnews.com The Domain Name Industry News &#187; Google Offers Domains from GoDaddy, eNom</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2006/07/14/domain-name-reassignment-foils-google/comment-page-1/#comment-21142</link>
		<dc:creator>Domainnews.com The Domain Name Industry News &#187; Google Offers Domains from GoDaddy, eNom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 07:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Answers: 1. Yes, Google is an accredited registrar. But they didn’t become a registrar in order to sell domain registrations. Domain registration is a low margin business and only makes sense if you are cross-selling other services. Google became a registrar so it could get its hands more easily on Whois data that would help them understand when domain names expired and exchanged hands. Getting this data would help Google cleanse its search index of domains. Alas, this didn’t work out as planned for the search giant. Registrars changed the way they deleted expiring domains by directly transferring them to new owners through services like SnapNames. The registration data in the Whois database wasn’t reset and Google couldn’t easily track these changes. [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Answers: 1. Yes, Google is an accredited registrar. But they didn’t become a registrar in order to sell domain registrations. Domain registration is a low margin business and only makes sense if you are cross-selling other services. Google became a registrar so it could get its hands more easily on Whois data that would help them understand when domain names expired and exchanged hands. Getting this data would help Google cleanse its search index of domains. Alas, this didn’t work out as planned for the search giant. Registrars changed the way they deleted expiring domains by directly transferring them to new owners through services like SnapNames. The registration data in the Whois database wasn’t reset and Google couldn’t easily track these changes. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2006/07/14/domain-name-reassignment-foils-google/comment-page-1/#comment-17329</link>
		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen,

I think Google&#039;s point is that if a lot of their search results point to parked pages, the quality of there results will be viewed poorly by their users.  Their main goal in life is to keep search users happy.</description>
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<p>I think Google&#8217;s point is that if a lot of their search results point to parked pages, the quality of there results will be viewed poorly by their users.  Their main goal in life is to keep search users happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Douglas</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2006/07/14/domain-name-reassignment-foils-google/comment-page-1/#comment-17271</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 02:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm, this reply CGI doesn&#039;t like apostrophes... let me try it again.

Frank has a good point, and so does the article.  Its also fascinating to wonder why Google would want to eliminate a large portion of their ad revenue from domains that retain their traffic stats after owner transfer, when most of the domains being transferred before the drop (or after) will have landing pages on them.  A large portion of those landing pages are featuring Google ads.   I&#039;m hesitant to accept Google&#039;s reasoning at face value for their concern regarding not being able to delete expiring domains from their index. 

There is still some mythology surrounding the claim that an expiring domain has lost its page rank with Google, so it loses its value. It&#039;s not usually the case, but the argument continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm, this reply CGI doesn&#8217;t like apostrophes&#8230; let me try it again.</p>
<p>Frank has a good point, and so does the article.  Its also fascinating to wonder why Google would want to eliminate a large portion of their ad revenue from domains that retain their traffic stats after owner transfer, when most of the domains being transferred before the drop (or after) will have landing pages on them.  A large portion of those landing pages are featuring Google ads.   I&#8217;m hesitant to accept Google&#8217;s reasoning at face value for their concern regarding not being able to delete expiring domains from their index. </p>
<p>There is still some mythology surrounding the claim that an expiring domain has lost its page rank with Google, so it loses its value. It&#8217;s not usually the case, but the argument continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Douglas</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2006/07/14/domain-name-reassignment-foils-google/comment-page-1/#comment-17270</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 02:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank has a good point, and so does the article.  It\&#039;s also fascinating to wonder why Google would want to eliminate a large portion of their ad revenue from domains that retain their traffic stats after owner transfer, when most of the domains being transferred before the drop (or after) will have landing pages on them.  A large portion of those landing pages are featuring Google ads.   I\&#039;m hesitant to accept Google\&#039;s reasoning at face value for their concern regarding not being able to \</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank has a good point, and so does the article.  It\&#8217;s also fascinating to wonder why Google would want to eliminate a large portion of their ad revenue from domains that retain their traffic stats after owner transfer, when most of the domains being transferred before the drop (or after) will have landing pages on them.  A large portion of those landing pages are featuring Google ads.   I\&#8217;m hesitant to accept Google\&#8217;s reasoning at face value for their concern regarding not being able to \</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Michlick</title>
		<link>http://domainnamewire.com/2006/07/14/domain-name-reassignment-foils-google/comment-page-1/#comment-6006</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Michlick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your comments on how tracking whois output (especially considering that there are still many different formats for COM/NET whois output, since the whois informaiton is held by the registrar) can be difficult. Also most whois server do not allow mass queries in order to prevent spamming etc.

There are two different ways how domains are re-registered when they expire today. 

Some registrars have an exclusive partnership with a drop names provider (example: Register.com/Snapnames), or their own program (Example: Enom/Clubdrop).

In the case of these exclusive partnerships the domain name actually is never dropped at the registry, just the owner changes after the name has been sold in an auction. The creation date will note change.

The other case is the one were the domains still go through the normal Hold, Redemption and Pending Delete cycle and the domain is actuall re-registered the moment it becomes available again (via Pool, Snapnames or Enom&#039;s Clubdrop). In this case the creation date changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your comments on how tracking whois output (especially considering that there are still many different formats for COM/NET whois output, since the whois informaiton is held by the registrar) can be difficult. Also most whois server do not allow mass queries in order to prevent spamming etc.</p>
<p>There are two different ways how domains are re-registered when they expire today. </p>
<p>Some registrars have an exclusive partnership with a drop names provider (example: Register.com/Snapnames), or their own program (Example: Enom/Clubdrop).</p>
<p>In the case of these exclusive partnerships the domain name actually is never dropped at the registry, just the owner changes after the name has been sold in an auction. The creation date will note change.</p>
<p>The other case is the one were the domains still go through the normal Hold, Redemption and Pending Delete cycle and the domain is actuall re-registered the moment it becomes available again (via Pool, Snapnames or Enom&#8217;s Clubdrop). In this case the creation date changes.</p>
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